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    Posted: 15 May 2023 at 12:44am
Things were going so well for me, I was comparing the copy of the DJ edit of Genesis's "Mama" that I have from "Turn It On Again The Hits (1999)" and the copy of the DJ edit of Genesis's "Mama" that I have from "Turn It On Again The Tour Edition (2007)"...

I noticed for whatever reason the version from the "Tour Edition" was more dynamic / less brickwalled and I thought that would be the one I'd want in my library, but JUST to make sure they are identical, I'll sum them to mono and do an A/B comparison...

...and suddenly, at 4:45, the ad-libs from Phil Collins take off from each other in opposite directions... *SIGH*

My suspicion now is that one is the actual DJ edit while the other is likely a failed attempt to recreate the DJ edit... but I have no idea which is which.

Here's what each does at approx. 4:45

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1999: (starts on the "3" of 4, then each line starts on approximately "1.")

Cha, no, no, no, no, no, don't
go, ha-ha,
don't go,
ha-ha,
ha, ow,no, no, no,
don't go,
don't let me down(?),
don't go,

don't go!

2007: Mom, mama don't
go,
no, don't go,
Cha, no, no, no, no, no, don't
go, ha-ha,
don't go
Ha-ha, ha,
ow No, no don't go
don't let me down(?),
don't go!
--

Writing this out, it looks a little like the 2007 version left in one earlier ad-lib, and faded earlier to match the length.

Does anyone have the promo 45 for this song to compare and determine which edit is accurate to the radio release?
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Check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzGUH20GZHQ and let us know what you find!

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Originally posted by mjb50 mjb50 wrote:

Check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzGUH20GZHQ and
let us know what you find!


Based on that, my vote goes to the 1999 version.
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Originally posted by NightAire NightAire wrote:

I was comparing the copy of the DJ edit of Genesis's "Mama" that I have from "Turn It On Again The Hits (1999)" and the copy of the DJ edit of Genesis's "Mama" that I have from "Turn It On Again The Tour Edition (2007)"...

I noticed for whatever reason the version from the "Tour Edition" was more dynamic / less brickwalled and I thought that would be the one I'd want in my library, but JUST to make sure they are identical, I'll sum them to mono and do an A/B comparison...

...and suddenly, at 4:45, the ad-libs from Phil Collins take off from each other in opposite directions... *SIGH*

My suspicion now is that one is the actual DJ edit while the other is likely a failed attempt to recreate the DJ edit.

Your suspicion is correct - the 2007 Edition of Turn It On Again features Nick Davis' remixes of all tracks on disc 1, except for 'The Carpet Crawlers 1999'. So all the edits contained therein are remixed recreations.

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Agreed, the 1999 version.
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Originally posted by davidlg1971 davidlg1971 wrote:

Originally posted by NightAire NightAire wrote:

I was comparing
the copy of the DJ edit of Genesis's "Mama" that I have
from "Turn It On Again The Hits (1999)" and the copy of
the DJ edit of Genesis's "Mama" that I have from "Turn It
On Again The Tour Edition (2007)"...

I noticed for whatever reason the version from the "Tour
Edition" was more dynamic / less brickwalled and I
thought that would be the one I'd want in my library, but
JUST to make sure they are identical, I'll sum them to
mono and do an A/B comparison...

...and suddenly, at 4:45, the ad-libs from Phil Collins
take off from each other in opposite directions...
*SIGH*

My suspicion now is that one is the actual DJ edit while
the other is likely a failed attempt to recreate the DJ
edit.

Your suspicion is correct - the
Turn-It-On-Again-The-Hits-The-Tour-Edition">2007
Edition
of Turn It On Again features Nick Davis'
remixes of all tracks on disc 1, except for 'The Carpet
Crawlers 1999'. So all the edits contained therein are
remixed recreations.

One more reason to hate the Nick Davis remixes/recreations!

Edited by RoyalScam
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Originally posted by RoyalScam RoyalScam wrote:

One more reason to hate the Nick Davis remixes/recreations!


Those remixes are truly atrocious. Hang on to those old Atlantic compact discs for dear life.
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