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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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The two database entries for this #25 track are indicated as alternate takes.
Does anyone know if the song's appearance on "The Jamie/Guyden Story" or "The Golden Age Of American Rock'n'Roll Vol. 4" are also alternates? |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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what is the difference between the vinyl 45 and the db
entries warranting an 'alternate take' version moniker? |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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i have a version of the song on cdr that, except for a
pitch issue, sounds pretty spot on.....i had to adjust the pitch down to 83.50bpms then the song will run 2:18 and matches pretty nicely.....if someone can point me in the direction of where the most notable differences are, i'd appreciate it.... |
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Compare the original 45 with the cd versions and you will hear an alternate vocal take. Listen to the words "understanding" at :23 and "die" at 1:29.
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Ok
David; i did a little checking for you, and alas it is also the alternate take on both the Ace Golden Age Vol. 4 and The Jamie/Guyden Story. This track also had an odd find as well while i was comparing versions. I did the "youtube thing" to locate a 45 dub, and there are quite a few on there. As we some folks post a song from cd, and out a pic of a 45, so i try to find ones with obvious surface noise, and if possible a notation that it's really a 45 dub. There are several of those too! But, the first one i played the song is pitched MUCH faster, i'm taking major faster. So i thought maybe it's only a pitch difference! Nope. Still another take. I found 2 others that are similar in pitch to the CD version, still an alternate take. The "slow" 45 is most similar the CD version, like it was from the same session, but... no cigar. On both the fast one and slow one, the user wrote it was from their own personal 45. Both labels, scanned into the video, had a listed time of 2:20. The "fast" version actual time is 2:07, the "slow" version actual time 2:19. There was another of the "slow" one with an actual time of 2:20, but that dub was also a terribly off-center pressing. So, it appeared to me that were 2 very different versions of this 45, but both had the same label and listed time as far i can tell. But again, to recap for David, the version on both the import CD's above, and the "Twang" cd in the database are the same alternate take. and there appears to be 2 different 45's at different speeds, and both of those were different recordings, and neither were the same take as the CD's. [whew]. MM |
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Paul C ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Unfortunately, the alternate take was also used for the Canadian CD, Treasured Tunes Volume 5. Even the Jamie/Guyden re-issue 45 that was in print in the 1980s has the alternate take.
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Bumping up for David.
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TomDiehl1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My copy of the 45 matches the version on
https:// youtu.be/6qcTibPfDZw. |
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Live in stereo.
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Paul C ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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It does not appear that Donnie Owens ever released an
album. "Need You" appeared on a Jamie 'various artists' LP in 1961 titled Sounds Of Success that I don't have (used copies are quite pricey), so I don't know what take is on it. This LP has been released digitally, and the version on the digital album is the usual alternate take found on CD. Edited by Paul C |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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I'm still looking for a CD quality transfer of either 45 on CD. Anyone find somewhere it is on CD...the two database listings are the alternative and are not the 45....
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