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Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young-"Ohio" |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My commercial 45, which is mono, has a listed time of (3:00), but an actual time of (2:56).
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Hmmmm. My So Far CD version runs (3:05). Is it an early fade, a small edit, and/or a speed difference that accounts for the difference? The song sounds slow on my CD, but that doesn't mean that it is.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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Am I correct that Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young's "Ohio" was a 45 only release in 1970 and didn't surface on an LP until four years later on the group's So Far compilation? I too am curious as to what accounts for the time difference between the 45 and the CD appearances. I agree with Doug that "Ohio" sounds a bit slow on CD, but can anyone verify if there is indeed a speed issue?
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AndrewChouffi ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Don't forget the first LP that contained "Ohio" (in stereo) was Super Hits Vol. 5 (released late 1970?) on Atlantic (various artists).
Not sure if it's any longer or shorter than 'So Far' though. Andy |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The version on Neil Young's "Decade" 2-CD set runs (2:58), and sounds a lot faster than the version on "So Far" (can't tell if it's faded earlier--might be by a second or two). That might be the 45 (albeit in stereo rather than mono).
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Doug
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Doug, I get (2:57) on my BMG-issue Decade set. So that's why they sold it cheaper! :)
My 1970 DJ 45 (Atlantic 2740) times out thusly: Mono side: (2:56) Stereo side: (2:59) The fadeout is essentially at the same point (just an insignificant bit later on the stereo side) so it is a speed difference between the two sides. |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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There's a digital collection from Neil Young called Neil Young Archives 1963-1972 that contains what's called the 45rpm single of "Ohio" and runs 2:59.
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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John was kind enough to send me a dub of this digital download, which Amazon calls the "Stereo 45 RPM Single." Its speed matches the stereo side of the DJ 45 almost exactly, and it has an identical fadeout point at the end. One thing I did notice, though: When I folded down each of the two - the 320kb .mp3 download and the vinyl 45 - it was clear that there was more limiting applied to the Archives track (fortunately, though, it isn't brickwalled.) The bottom end and the kick drum lack a lot of the punch that are present on the DJ 45. Here's a look at the A/B comparison, with the Archives track in red at the top, and the vinyl DJ 45 in blue at the bottom. Edited by Yah Shure |
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JL328 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 May 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I've read through this thread as well as the CSN "Woodstock" thread
that has some additional discussion of "Ohio" and am looking for a little clarification... Every appearance of this song on cd is in stereo. Are each of these properly classified as the "dj stereo version" or is there some difference (beyond a couple seconds of timing perhaps) between any of the CD appearances, such as the version on "So Far", and the version that appeared on the stereo side of the promo 45? Second, is the mono version on the commercial 45 (and presumably the mono side of the 45 promo) a fold-down of the stereo promo side (with perhaps some minor fade or speed adjustments)? I've listened to the 45 vs. the version on "So Far" and don't hear any noticeable differences. Thanks for any clarification. Edited by JL328 |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 89 |
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I've never compared the 45 to a fold-down of the stereo for "Ohio," but I have for "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes." The latter, to my ears, sounds like a fold-down and edit.
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