KENNY G - Songbird

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   KENNY G -"Songbird"

I have two kinds of the "Songbird" commercial 45 (ARISTA AS1-9588).

(1)/The actual running time 3:36 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SAS-SP2

(2)/The actual running time 5:00 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SA-PW1

Please look at the following scan images.

(1)3:36

(2)5:00

First time I purchased (1). However it was very noisy record with scratches. And I imported again reluctantly from the other online store. Fortunately, I got (2). "Turn the potential disaster to my advantage"

Edited by abagon

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abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: KENNY G - Songbird Posted: 19 May 2008 at 7:39am
	KENNY G -"Songbird" I have two kinds of the "Songbird" commercial 45 (ARISTA AS1-9588). (1)/The actual running time 3:36 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SAS-SP2 (2)/The actual running time 5:00 (Listed Time 3:29) matrix # AS-1-9588-SA-PW1 Please look at the following scan images. (1)3:36 (2)5:00 First time I purchased (1). However it was very noisy record with scratches. And I imported again reluctantly from the other online store. Fortunately, I got (2). "Turn the potential disaster to my advantage" Edited by abagon

MCT1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 26 December 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MCT1 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 2008 at 10:11am
	FWIW, from the typeface differences, it looks like these may have come from different pressing plants. In a previous discussion about Aretha Franklin's "Freeway of Love", it was suggested that 45s with labels that look like #1 may have been pressed by RCA, those with #2 by Specialty (which by this time was owned by Warner Music, but still also did pressing work for outside clients). #1 strikes me as more "typical Arista typeface" from this era, while #2 certainly resembles the typeface used by Specialty for other labels they pressed for.

abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 2008 at 12:17am
	MCT1: Thank you. Your information is beneficial for me very much.

torcan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 23 June 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote torcan Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 May 2009 at 2:07pm
	This seems to be another case of multiple pressings of this 45: I've seen on e-bay that there's also a pressing that carries a 4:51 timing, on Arista 9588, and there's also a 5:00 timing on Arista 9516. I have a promo that has a 5:00 timing, but I can't play it because it's off-center. I also have a commercial copy of the one pictured above that carries a 3:29 timing. Don't know if there ever was a promo that listed either 3:29 or 4:51. FWIW, the Canadian 45 of this title carried the full 5:00.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2010 at 11:24pm
	Does anyone know what the (3:59) version is on the "Greatest Hits" CD? I presume it's a "neither" or "faded early," but the database doesn't have a note next to it. "Ultimate" runs (3:54), which also doesn't have a note next to it. Edited by aaronk

abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2010 at 11:40am
	Aaron, The short 45 is an early fade of the Greatest Hits CD. Unfortunately, my GH CD is German pressing. But it runs (3:59). Also, I think that the short 45 is an edit of the full length version. --abagon

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2010 at 12:58pm
	Thanks to abagon, I was able to hear the actual short vinyl 45 version. He is absolutely correct that "Greatest Hits" is the "45 version but :23 longer." This should probably be noted in the database.

Fetta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fetta Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 April 2011 at 5:32pm
	just wanted to push up this thread as I am working on Kenny G and the above has not yet been updated in the DB. -Jeff

abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2011 at 8:33am
	Although the info was already updated. The long 45 is the same as the LP. The short 45 is the edited version of the LP or the long 45. I think that the "short 45 length but :22 longer" comment for Greatest Hits CD is not appropriate. --abagon

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2011 at 9:25am
	Abagon you stated above that the short 45 version is just an early fade of the LP appearance so why do you feel the comment "short 45 length but :22 longer" is not appropriate?