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    Posted: 15 November 2004 at 9:50am
does anyone know where i can find the 45 version (4:05) of asia "only time will tell"....the only version i can find is the lp version which runs 4:44 in length....
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Sorry to bump a three-year-old question, but I'm kinda curious myself (heard the LP version on the radio today, and I'm trying to recall the 45 in my head and getting nowhere).

Has any one of our editors tried to construct the 45 from the LP? Can it even be done?
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Yes, the 45 is an edit and can be reconstructed from the LP version. I'll try to check my edit when I get home tonight to jog my memory on how it was done.
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There are actually two 45 versions of this - a DJ edit and a commercial edit. When Billboard reviewed this song, they listed it as 3:23. The 45s were all 4:05. I only heard the 3:23 version a few times - including at least once on "American Top 40".

I was lucky enough to find a promo 45 of this several years ago with both edits. I haven't timed them to see if the timings are correct, but they must be pretty close.
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Torcan:

If you might be able to determine the edits for this song...please share. I am very interested in recreating the DJ versions.
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I checked my recreation of the commercial 45 edit and, unfortunately, the edits are too complex to describe. It's not that they are difficult; a couple of them occur in awkward places that you would think were incorrect if not using the 45 as a guide.

If anyone is interested in a mp3 of my reconstruction of the commercial 45, just PM me.
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Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

Torcan:

If you might be able to determine the edits for this song...please share. I am very interested in recreating the DJ versions.


I don't have these fancy computer programs it sounds like most of you do, and I'm still more of a vinyl collector, but I'll do my best to describe the edits.

Everything's the same as the LP version up to the end of the first chorus. After he says "...tide me over", edit out the instrumental and go right to "Only time will tell...".

The verse, instrumental and "Now, sure as the sun..." are all intact.

After the next "...tide me over", edit out the next instrumental passage and go right to "You're leaving now".

After "...planned it all along", edit to "You're on your own, inside your room" to fade.

That's the 3:23 edit. I never really liked the 4:05 edit because there's a part near the end of the song where you can actually hear the edit. When the song wasa a hit, I always heard the full LP version on the stations I listened to.

Also, I know that the third single "Soul Survivor" wasn't a top 40 hit, but my US 45 has a listed run time of 3:35. I'm sure I saw a 4:48 version one time (it might have been the Canadian 45), does anyone know if there were two 45s for that?
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Thanks Torcan,

Based on your description, the end product in Audition came out to 3:22. Pretty darn close, eh? :)
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The short side of my DJ 45 has both a listed and actual time of (3:23), while the long side version (which is the same as the commercial 45, and was also an LP edit, as indicated above) has a listed time of (4:05) and an actual time of (4:04).
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2 out of the 3 edits I made were a hair off. But, darn close to the original. :)
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