One Night in Bangkok running time

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   Pat lists 4:05 as the running time of the 45 version on various CDs.  However, Whitburn lists 3:54, and my version on the Canadian "Here Come the Hits" CD runs an actual 3:53.  11 seconds is a big difference.

Does anyone have the 45 who can time it?  Maybe the 45 runs faster than the standard CD version, or maybe the intro is longer.  On my Canadian CD, the first word is at 00:41.

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Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: One Night in Bangkok running time Posted: 19 June 2006 at 12:08pm
	Pat lists 4:05 as the running time of the 45 version on various CDs. However, Whitburn lists 3:54, and my version on the Canadian "Here Come the Hits" CD runs an actual 3:53. 11 seconds is a big difference. Does anyone have the 45 who can time it? Maybe the 45 runs faster than the standard CD version, or maybe the intro is longer. On my Canadian CD, the first word is at 00:41.

anthology123 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote anthology123 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2006 at 12:43pm
	I have the original US 45, it's in my 45 archive, so I'll try to locate it. I notice a non-single version out there that has a symphonic intro.

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2006 at 3:20pm
	I was about to post this one anyhow. My promo has the (Original European Hit) on one side, with a listed time of (3:54), but an actual time of (4:05). Deadwax PB-13988A-B. The other side, (U.S. Radio Edit) has a listed time of (4:05) but an actual time of (3:52). Deadwax PB-13988-D. This is the side with the "symphonic, Jethro Tull-like intro" that anthology123 references. Our station played the "Original European Hit" version back in '85.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2006 at 7:01pm
	Hmm...so which was the US commercial 45 version?

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2006 at 8:52pm
	I was hoping nobody would ask that, as my '88-'94 promo CD singles were blocking the doorway to my "stock 45s" room, but it's a legitimate question, Brian. Moved the boxes for you - the stock 45 does not specify anything on it, but the intros of the two versions are "night and day" different. The stock 45 version is, with COMPLETE certainty, the listed (3:54), actual (4:05) "Original European Hit" version.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2006 at 9:09pm
	Thanks, Jim. Hope you didn't need a forklift to move those CDs!

anthology123 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote anthology123 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 June 2006 at 5:14pm
	I found my original US 45 with picture sleeve. The timing was listed as 3:54, but I played the single this morning and can confirm the real run time as 4:05.

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 June 2007 at 7:45pm
	Eriejwg, I've bumped this up for you. A common trip-up for new folks on the "search" feature is that Pat's programmer has "Message Body" as the "Search In" default search. I have never used this. You have to click on the arrow after "Message Body." Then you see another option pop up, which is the one you REALLY want here, "Topic Subject." Click on THAT option, and all will fall into place. If others on the Board also happen to use the "Topic Subject" search most frequently, perhaps we can suggest to Pat/his programmer that they flip-flop the two options, and make "Topic Subject" the "default" search. Edited by jimct

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 June 2007 at 5:38pm
	I generally use "message body" first (because it's the default), and if that yields no results, I'll try using "topic subject." Jim, you bring up a good point, though. If you can't find something under one option, try the other. Happy searching!

Paul C Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 23 October 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul C Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 June 2007 at 6:20am
	This is a tricky one to figure out. Jim, my U.S. promo 45 is the same as yours, but it appears that due to a production error the labels on both our copies were reversed. The side labeled as "Original European Hit" and with a stated time of 3:54 and described as having an "introduction by London Symphony Orchestra" is actually the "U.S. radio edit" running about 4:05 with no London Symphony Orchestra intro (and vice versa). My U.S. commercial 45 incorrectly gives a running time of 3:54 and incorrectly states it has an introduction by the London Symphony Orchestra. It actually runs about 4:05 and the LSO appears nowhere on the record. It has a completely different intro and a rendition of the chorus before the first verse. As Jim states, this is the version labeled on the U.S. promo 45 as the "Original European Hit", but since the labels on the U.S. promo 45 are reversed, this is actually the "U.S. radio edit". The Canadian 45 is the version running about 3:52 with the London Symphony Orchestra, which explains the running time on Brian's Canadian CD. This appears to be the version released as the commercial 45 in every country except the U.S. Are we confused yet? Edited by Paul C