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    Posted: 13 July 2006 at 9:35pm
If you're looking for a challenge, try matching the 45 edits on ZZ Top's "Velcro Fly," a song that has not appeared on domestic CD (or perhaps anyhwere in the world) in it's 45 version.

I just completed this edit for Ed, and it's a real nightmare. I counted the tape splices (as the producer would not have had digital editing equipment back then), and there's no less than fourteen in less than three minutes! Some of the edits are less than a second in length, and they don't follow the order of the LP version. (Some edits are earlier parts of the LP version spliced in later. Like I said, NIGHTMARE!)

Only two other not-available-on-cd edits come to mind that were as difficult as this one: "Beatles' Movie Medley" and "Money Changes Everything (Live)."

Any others not available in the 45 version that were very difficult custom edits to create?
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14 edits in less than 3 minutes, Aaron! That has got to be the record. I think the "Uneasy Rider" promo only had 12!
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Didn't really feel like messing with 14 edits, so I decided to pick up a stock of this. Listed and actual time is 2:50.

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Doesn't "Evil Woman" by Electric Light Orchestra have a silly number of edits just to trim about 45 seconds from the album version? Perhaps not 14, but still...(Not to mention that it's sped up on 45, too.)
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I dubbed a stock 45 for ELO a few years back...
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my commercial 45 issued as warner 68650 states a run time of 2:50 and does indeed run that length.....this 45 run time s/b added to the d/b.....aaron...thanks for your painstaking effort re-creating this one.....thanks from all of us on the board.......

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Originally posted by TimNeely TimNeely wrote:

Doesn't "Evil Woman" by Electric Light Orchestra have a silly number of edits just to trim about 45 seconds from the album version? Perhaps not 14, but still...(Not to mention that it's sped up on 45, too.)

I count four edits (but that includes removing the "You made a fool of me. . ." intro before the piano kicks in).

A simpler way would be to edit the one extra line left in the Rhino Have a Nice Decade box set version.
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

If you're looking for a challenge, try matching the 45 edits on ZZ Top's "Velcro Fly," a song that has not appeared on domestic CD (or perhaps anyhwere in the world) in it's 45 version.

I just completed this edit for Ed, and it's a real nightmare. I counted the tape splices (as the producer would not have had digital editing equipment back then), and there's no less than fourteen in less than three minutes! Some of the edits are less than a second in length, and they don't follow the order of the LP version. (Some edits are earlier parts of the LP version spliced in later. Like I said, NIGHTMARE!)


Wow, yet another example of this case...re-arranging like that occurs on other singles.
1973-"Hocus Pocus" by Focus-a somewhat maniac sounding laughing guitar heard at the end of the single is actually before the weird Chinese-sounding (IMO) flute solo on the original "Moving Waves" 1971 LP version (which had some large edits as well) which also exists on the hit single.

1974
"Tubular Bells"by Mike Oldfield had the guitar part after where the approved, 5-minute single ends, transplanted back to both the "Have a Nice Day" and the actual version (the one AaronK did, as mentioned in the Tubular Bells thread way-back-when). And different edits for all the different versions described in other "TB" thread.

"Tell Me Something Good" by Rufus had three verses that, despite, first and third being identical, were still notably sung differently, and switched with the third being eliminated with the one middle, lyrically different verse remaining, then the final chorus is transplated back to the first chorus part for the single (whew!)




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Can you imagine the poor engineer who had to do that 45 edit in 1985 with a razor blade and splice tape? That's brutal!

The most difficult edits I'd encountered were "Paradise By The Dashboard Light" and a low-charting late-'80s remake of "Stairway To Heaven" by Far Corporation (a Frank Farian studio creation). Both of those had around 11 edits each.

"Velcro Fly" seems to be the new winner, in this unfortunate category.

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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

Can you imagine the poor engineer who had to do that 45 edit in 1985 with a razor blade and splice tape? That's brutal!


1985? ZZTop had hits that late? :)
You know you're really older when you think that younger singer Jesse McCartney's related in anyway to former Beatle Paul McCartney.
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