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80smusicfreak ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I hope Pat doesn't mind me posting this here. :-) But
like me, it sounds like many of the other regulars on this chat board have an extensive number of music chart books in their personal libraries, so I'm hoping someone here may be able to help me... I'm in search of what is likely a relatively obscure U.S. chart book - although it's only about 10 years old, at the most. Back in the mid to late '90s, I'd frequent different stores in the Tower Records chain, and often checked their fairly extensive selection of music books in their book dept. On many occasions over a several-year period, I remember seeing this book that ranked the top 100 pop singles for each year of the entire rock era (up to the early '90s, anyway), based on "Billboard" magazine's "Hot 100" chart. The concept was the same as Joel Whitburn's "Pop Annual", but the author(s) used their own (i.e., very different) formula to rank the songs in order of popularity. (And again, it ranked only the top 100 songs of each year, not all of the songs that cracked the "Hot 100", like Whitburn. If you were to use Whitburn's "Pop Annual" as a guide, the top 100 songs in any given year would comprise roughly the ones that made the top 10 or top 15 on the "Hot 100".) While I flipped through this book on several different occasions, alas, I never bought it! Problem is, now I can't even recall the author(s) or title of the book... I believe it was actually credited to two authors. (Even though it used the "Billboard" chart, it was definitely NOT a Joel Whitburn or Record Research book, or by Pat, for that matter.) It was a paperback, and had a fairly distinct all-yellow cover. To the best of my recollection, it measured roughly 6" x 9", and the cover price was maybe $15-$20. Like Pat's CD book, I believe there was more than one edition published, w/ the last being sometime in the mid '90s. I'm 99% certain it's now out-of-print. (Although I ran across it in one or two other places, I know I haven't seen it in any Tower stores for a good 5-6 years now, as I've continued to keep an eye out.) So, does anyone here possibly have this book, or at least know the one I'm talking about??? I don't necessarily expect anyone to part w/ their copy; I just need accurate info on the author(s) and title, to at least begin a definitive search! Thanks in advance... :-) |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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80smusicfreak:
It sounds like the book you're looking for is Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits by Fred Bronson. You'll be happy to know that the book was updated a couple of years ago and is still very much in print. You should have no problem finding a copy on websites like amazon.com or barnesandnoble.com. Fred is also the author of the popular Billboard Book of Number One Hits, which chronicles and documents every #1 Billboard Hot 100 chart single since 1955. |
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80smusicfreak ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thanks for at least taking a stab, Todd. :-) But I'm
afraid that's definitely not the one. :-( While I don't have the book "Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits", I have seen it in stores quite often, and very recently. (I do, however, have an old edition of Bronson's "Billboard Book of Number One Hits", and usually read his "Chart Beat" column every week in "Billboard" magazine, so I'm well aware of his writings.) As I noted above, the book I'm looking for is much more obscure. I remember it was from a small publisher, and definitely NOT associated w/ Billboard Publications, Inc. (which handles Bronson's books) or Record Research (Whitburn's company). Obviously, the author(s) of this book were still able to get permission to use "Billboard" chart data, though... I just remember that I found their formula for ranking the 100 most popular songs from each year to be quite fascinating. They used a point-system, instead of going strictly by peak chart position (followed by weeks the song held that position, weeks in the top 10, etc.), as Whitburn does in his "Pop Annual" (which I have several editions of, including the latest). They took into account weeks charted, and the song's position on the chart each week, and some other factors - thus, using 1983 as an example, songs such as Frida's "I Know There's Something Going On" and "Tonight, I Celebrate My Love" by Peabo Bryson & Roberta Flack (which rank only #99 and #112 in Whitburn's book, respectively), got a huge boost due to their staying power on the "Hot 100" at 29 weeks each, even though they only peaked at #13 and #16, respectively. (Yet songs like "Human Nature" by Michael Jackson and "Undercover of the Night" by the Rolling Stones rank higher in Whitburn's book [#61 and #70, respectively], just because they cracked the top 10, even though they were both gone after a mere 14 weeks!) I think the only real reason I didn't buy this book at the time was because it ranked only the top 100 songs from each year. Had it gone deeper - say, the top 200, or even every song that made the "Hot 100", as Whitburn's "Pop Annual" does - I would've headed to the cash register immediately, because their formula was definitely far superior to Whitburn's! But at just 100 songs per year, I guess it somehow seemed a bit incomplete to me, and thus wouldn't have given me reason enough to toss my copy of Whitburn's book. Of course, now I regret it - guess I shoulda bought it while I had the chance! (*sigh*)... |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17 |
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Was it a book or more like a booklet? Did it have a yellow cover with red letters?
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mike sparrow ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 November 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The book you're remembering is "Rock 100" by Jim Quirin and Barry Cohen. When the first edition came out in 1976, it was the only book of its kind. I picked it up at a Peaches' Record Store. It has been updated several times since, most recently in 1992. It's a no-frills approach to ranking the songs to be sure, but I still refer to it often. It's available used on Amazon, but it's a little pricey.
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80smusicfreak ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Thank you, mike sparrow!!! I just went over to Amazon w/
the info you provided, and "Rock 100" is indeed the book I've been trying to remember! :-) A shame that Quirin and Cohen haven't updated it for some 12-13 years now; after reading the reviews, it appears there are others who'd like them to do so as well. I knew it was likely out-of-print by now, and sure enough, that's the case. (You're right, the used copies currently being offered through Amazon aren't cheap, but I might just end up biting the bullet!) I'm just glad I can finally stop driving myself crazy after several years - a tip of the hat to you! :-) |
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80smusicfreak ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Just bumping this thread back up to the top, for any newcomers, or those who may have missed it...
As noted in the "Devil's Gun" thread, this is the one where I initially inquired about Jim Quirin & Barry Cohen's book, "Rock 100", in 2005. Again, for more detailed info, they have their own web site at: www.chartmasters.biz... |
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