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    Posted: 03 October 2006 at 9:54pm
The database indicates the following note for the 2nd version of "The Way We Were" on Barbra Streisand's "Just For The Record" box set: "includes a (:54) spoken introduction, (1:56) of an alternate lyric version and (2:00) of the hit version". The box liner notes also indicate that the last part of this medley is the single version.

However, on comparing the box set with the 45, there are some mix and vocal differences. The box set version has some additional percussion on the "memories may be beautiful and yet", and a different vocal on the "we simply choose to forget". It's close to the 45 version, but no cigar.

A shame that such a big hit has never been released on CD in its hit version, and we're not talking about just a subtle mix difference. The version that appears on all the CDs is a completely different performance than the 45.
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Roscoe is correct. That note should actually say, "and (2:00) of the LP version."

It is bizarre that this song has never appeared in its single verison on CD. I remember first buying Barbra Streisand's Greatest Hits Volume II in, oh, 1981 on LP. The first time I heard "Way We Were" there, I thought, "That's not what I remember hearing on the radio."

As the years went by, I convinced myself that my memory was faulty. (I've learned since to trust my memory... it's a good one.) Then I finally bought the vinyl 45 a couple years ago, and was shocked at how different they actually are.

It was rumored that the US CD3 BackTrax single, issued in 1989 or thereabouts, contained the 45 version, but I own it, and it's the LP Version.

I wonder if Streisand even remembers that the single version is different.
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Does anyone know if the Columbia Hall Of Fame 45 reissues of this are the original mix or did they switch over the later version that's on all of Babs' CD's?
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Originally posted by Glenpwood Glenpwood wrote:

Does anyone know if the Columbia Hall Of Fame 45 reissues of this are the original mix or did they switch over the later version that's on all of Babs' CD's?

The vinyl 45s of the Hall of Fame reissues -- yes, they are he original 45 versions. "The Way We Were" / "All is Fair in Love" Hall of Fame single was issued on a CD3 in 1988 or '89, but the mo-fos used the album versions, since they were too lazy to do a new transfer and just wanted to use the existing digital transfer from her "Greatest Hits Vol. 2" CD.

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I only have the Hall Of Fame reissue 45 (never got the
original 45) plus the common LP version on CD. I'm one
that has trouble telling the two versions (common LP and
45) apart. To me they are very similar (but I don't hear
the 45 version much).
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Originally posted by Santi Paradoa Santi Paradoa wrote:

I only have the Hall Of Fame
reissue 45 (never got the
original 45) plus the common LP version on CD. I'm one
that has trouble telling the two versions (common LP and
45) apart. To me they are very similar (but I don't hear
the 45 version much).


It's easy! The 45 version has an extra wha-wha guitar
part throughout the song, and the vocal is slightly
different.

That reissue 45 you have may have the LP version.
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The deadwax info on the reissue 45 is ZSS158863-1AF. Now
I'm curious to know if it matches the original single.
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Here are my entries in the Babs deadwax sweepstakes:

1973 45944 Santa Maria vinyl stock: ZSS-158863-1D

1973 45944 Canadian vinyl stock: 158863-1A

Hall Of Fame 33262 reissue: ZSS 158863-1K


The groove spacing is noticeably narrower (and deadwax wider) on the HOF reissue than on either of the two original '73 issues.
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There may be early Hall Of Fame 45 reissues using original stampers out there. Some of these 45 re-releases did use original stampers. Some used promo side stampers here and there also.
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Originally posted by KentT KentT wrote:

Some used promo side stampers here and there also.

That must be why the "Stony End" Hall of Fame 45 was mono when the commercial issue was stereo.
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