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    Posted: 05 March 2005 at 8:33pm
anyone know if the 45 version of "cat's in the cradle" by harry chapin was every issued in it's 45 version........the 45 face says the run time is 3:29 but it actually runs 3:35.......all the cd versions i've found run between 3:48 to 3:50........the 45 and the cd version is the same to the break at the 2:24 mark and the 45 edits the guitar loop.........

the cd "once upon a song" issued in 2001 on sony could have the 45 version........does anybody have this cd in their collection.........any info would be helpful
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I know that the single edit of Harry Chapin's "Cats ..." appears on Rhino's "Have a Nice Decade" box set.
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My commercial 45, which is stereo, has a listed time of (3:29), but an actual time of (3:45). My timing conflicts a bit with Ed's earlier report of a listed (3:29), actual (3:35) timing. We probably have 45s with different deadwax info. Mine is "ES-45203 A-SP". Appearing later in the deadwax is "ESR-TD-8-7-74".

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Jim:

Do you know if the shorter 3:35 version of "Cat's in the Cradle" exists anywhere on a promo 45?
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Todd, my mono/stereo promo 45 has a listed time of (3:44) on both sides, and both sides actually run (3:45), just like my commercial 45 does. Perhaps a 2nd promo 45 was put out for this song in 1974?
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And to add to the confusion, the Rhino Digital 45 uses a version that runs (3:32). Haven't bought yet, so I don't know whether there's any further edit aside from the one that appears on the Have A Nice Decade box.
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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

And to add to the confusion, the Rhino Digital 45 uses a version that runs (3:32). Haven't bought yet, so I don't know whether there's any further edit aside from the one that appears on the Have A Nice Decade box.


As it turns out, no additional edit--it's the same version as on the Have A Nice Decade box, yet with a very truncated early fade.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 August 2009 at 5:21pm
Has anyone else run into really bad pressings of singles from that era? I ended up throwing out my copy of CITC (since I had the song on an album anyway) because it sounded so bad. I examined the 45 with a magnifying glass and there were lots of small pits in the grooves, almost like there were bubbles in the plastic and they eventually popped. My copy of "Lady" by Styx from around the same time was similarly affected.

I don't recall either of these singles sounding like this when I first got them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bwolfe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 August 2009 at 4:09am
I've been told there was a lot of recycled vinyl being used in those days.
Motown stuff was like that.
Upon close discovery you would see white specks through the vinyl.
I returned three copies of "Can't Slow Down" from Lionel Richie until I got a decent one.
Even that copy wasn't perfect.
I think the local record store got tired of my complaining.
the way it was heard on the radio
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Interesting - I returned many copies of Diana Ross' "To Love Again" in 1981 for the same reason. It took many copies until I got a decent sounding one.
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