Night Ranger "When You Close Your Eyes"

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   Hi All -

I'm new to the site and have been amazed to see to collective knowledge of everyone on this board.

Anyway, in digging through the database I noticed that there is no distinction between "When You Close Your Eyes" from the "Midnight Madness" LP and the "Greatest Hits" (MCA 42307).  However, they are completely different vocal takes.  I have M.M. and used to own "Hits."  In fact, you can hear the difference just from listening to the audio clips on allmusic.com.

Does anyone know what version was used on the 45?  I have to assume it was the M.M. version because that is what I remember hearing on the radio when it was first released.

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995wlol Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote 995wlol Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Night Ranger "When You Close Your Eyes" Posted: 26 December 2006 at 4:47pm
	Hi All - I'm new to the site and have been amazed to see to collective knowledge of everyone on this board. Anyway, in digging through the database I noticed that there is no distinction between "When You Close Your Eyes" from the "Midnight Madness" LP and the "Greatest Hits" (MCA 42307). However, they are completely different vocal takes. I have M.M. and used to own "Hits." In fact, you can hear the difference just from listening to the audio clips on allmusic.com. Does anyone know what version was used on the 45? I have to assume it was the M.M. version because that is what I remember hearing on the radio when it was first released.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 December 2006 at 6:25pm
	Welcome to the board, 995wlol. I just listened to the song samples on allmusic.com, and you're right. Great catch! Unfortunately, I can't be much help on this one since I only have the cassette tape of "Greatest Hits." I'm sure someone can help sort it out, though.

PaulEschen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 December 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulEschen Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2006 at 8:59am
	Sorry I can't be of direct help, but the version on the CD 20th Century Masters-The Millennium Collection (MCA 088 112 307-2) is the same vocal take as the 45, and the CD claims their version is from Midnight Madness.

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2006 at 9:17am
	Paul: There was a 4-CD MCA hit sampler sent to my radio station, back in 1989. Lucky for me, our then-afternoon-guy/MD left the station, to go work for MCA as a promotion man that same year. He soon after mailed me my own copy of it, as a Christmas present for all the help I'd been to him! To date, it has proven to be a very reliable source of MCA 80s hit 45 versions on CD. Last night, I shot out all the necessary audio to Aaron, who will compare the 45/CD audio and will soon report back with his findings. Once we get this initial comparison straight, I hope to also check some database CDs, to confirm 995wlol's claims. Edited by jimct

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 December 2006 at 10:05am
	Jim sent me a dub of his 45 to compare, and the 45 vocal matches the LP vocal. The version on Greatest Hits, as 995wlol states above, is an alternate take.

995wlol Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 December 2006 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote 995wlol Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2006 at 10:50am
	Wow, thanks everybody--I had a feeling you guys would get to the bottom of this! Just a couple of other notes. It seems that the "alternate take" version has gotten a foothold on radio because I have heard it on the syndicated "Backtracks USA" 80s radio show as well as a now-defunct 80s station here in the Twin Cities. I have a handful of other obsevations/questions about single versions that I'm looking forward to discussing with all of you. Thanks again, Mike

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2006 at 11:50am
	We're here to help, Mike. I'm sure we all appreciate you bringing up these differences we hadn't discovered. And most likely the reason that Backtrax and other stations are playing the "alternate" version is because they hadn't noticed the difference either.

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 December 2006 at 6:49pm
	Welcome on board, Mike. Long live the old WLOL (1981-1991)!

AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2006 at 1:56pm
	I synched up the 'Midnight Madness' & the 'Greatest Hits' versions. No differences. No phasing errors. Please descibe any differences I have missed. Thank you. Andy

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 260	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2006 at 2:41pm
	If what you say is true, Andrew, then there may be more than one pressing of Greatest Hits. You might want to take a listen to them seperately, because it's highly possible they used the same music track but with an alternate take on the vocals. If you listen to the second verse, for example, you can hear a slight difference on the line "been an awful hard night of drinking." He almost sounds off-key on the Greatest Hits version, especially noticeable on the word "drinking."