Joe Public - Live And Learn

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   I noticed there are a few database entries that list "neither" for Joe Public "Live And Learn."  I believe this (3:53) version is the "Radio Version without Rap."  I have a copy of this version, which does run that length.

At the part where the rap would normally be, only the first word "large" is heard, and then it goes into an instrumental section.

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Joe Public - Live And Learn Posted: 27 February 2007 at 1:14pm
	I noticed there are a few database entries that list "neither" for Joe Public "Live And Learn." I believe this (3:53) version is the "Radio Version without Rap." I have a copy of this version, which does run that length. At the part where the rap would normally be, only the first word "large" is heard, and then it goes into an instrumental section.

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 February 2007 at 6:46pm
	Aaron, can you give us the complete track lineup on your dj cd single for "Live And Learn"?

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 February 2007 at 7:30pm
	Pat, since I know Aaron is working now, I'll jump in on his behalf with details of my promo CD single; perhaps he may or may not possess a different one: Joe Public-"Live And Learn" (CSK 4428) 1-Single Edit (listed 3:49; actual 3:48) 2-Radio Version With Rap (listed and actual 3:58) 3-Public Dance Mix (listed 6:14; actual 6:10)

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 February 2007 at 10:58pm
	The version of "Live and Learn" I heard on my local Top 40 station was the "Radio Version Without Rap", so I imagine that version has to be available somewhere on a different promo single release.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 February 2007 at 11:01pm
	Pat: You may also want to mention in the database that cassette single copies state "Radio Version with Rap" on the cardboard sleeve.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 February 2007 at 12:03am
	Jim, thanks for providing the info on your promo CD. Although I don't have a copy of the promo single, it appears there must be more than one, because my TM Century disc has the "Radio Version without Rap" and it does actually run (3:53). So, this is not the same as the "Single Edit" on your promo CD. To give you a little more info on this edit, the instrumental section starts at (2:42) and goes until (3:07). The background track matches the "with rap" version all the way up to (3:07), where there is one edit. The edit jumps to where the chorus comes back in at (3:16), but of course on the "with rap" version there is rapping over the chorus. Jim, does the "Single Edit" on your promo CD still contain the rap at (2:42) or at some other point in the song?

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 March 2007 at 2:47am
	Aaron: No rap at the (2:42) mark of my "single edit", and aside from a quick "kickin' it for the public one time" at the (3:00) mark, which is a "stretch" as being catagorized as a brief rap, there is no rap at ALL found on my "single edit."

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 March 2007 at 1:58pm
	That's really interesting, Jim. My "without rap" version does not have that line at (3:00), so you must have a completely different "no rap" version.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 March 2007 at 8:37am
	I just heard Jim's "Single Edit," and this IS a completely different "no rap" edit. The songs are essentially the same up to the 2:42 mark, but then there are some different edits and extra spoken vocals on the "Single Edit" that Jim has. Also the chorus comes back in at 3:02 on the "Single Edit," while it doesn't come in until 3:07 on the "Radio Version Without Rap." There must be a second promo CD with this version on it.

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 July 2009 at 3:05pm
	I just came across a dj cd single of "Live And Learn" that appears to be the missing dj cd single. This is Columbia CSK 74012 and has 3 tracks: 1. radio version without rap states (3:55) runs (3:54) 2. radio version with rap states (3:58) and runs (3:58) 3. 12" remix states (6:44) and runs (6:44) Edited by Pat Downey