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Eric Carmen-"Make Me Lose Control" |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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As Pat correctly shows in the database, DJ 45s state times of (4:17) and (4:35), with the actual time for the latter being (4:45). But the actual time of the listed (4:17) also runs :10 seconds longer, at (4:27).
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Pat, my commercial 45 has a listed time of (4:45). Your current database notation states that "commercial copies all run (4:45), even though the record label states (4:35)". Perhaps this commercial 45 was issued with two different listed times.
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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My commercial 45 is Arista 9686 with matrix number AS1-9686-SAL-S2 and states a running time of (4:35).
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Pat, my stated (4:45) commercial 45 is also on Arista 9686, but mine has a matrix number of "AS1-9686-SAL-SP-1".
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Bump.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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My promo CD single for this is Arista ASCD-9686, released
1988, with just one track, denoted as "Single Version", printed 4:45, actual 4:46. To promo 45 version has found its way onto at least one commercially available CD. I have it on Quality Canada's This Is Music 5 (1989). To recreate the promo 45, it's one easy edit from the LP and commercial 45 version. Using timings from my promo CD single: Keep 0:00.0 to 3:24.4 of the LP/commercial 45 version. Edit between in the middle of the word "go". The edit occurs right at the first tambourine hit, so that it goes edit-snare-second tambourine hit-downbeat. Remove the 32 beats from 3:24.4 to 3:42.0. Keep 3:42.0 to 4:46.6 (end) of the LP/commercial 45 version. Your mixdown will run 4:28 if you don't put an early fade on it, with an edit at 3:24. My copy on This Is Music 5 fades at 4:20, but I don't know if the true promo 45 fades at the same place, or if This Is Music 5 fades early. I've seen many other early fades on this series, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's an artifact of this Canadian CD. Everything runs at 109.0 BPM, so no pitch differences. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Earlier this year a digital only compilation was released titled "And Now, Eric Carmen: The Arista Archive" with 25 tracks including live tracks, demos and alternate versions.
One of the rarities is the demo version of "Make Me Lose Control." The early version is titled "Long Live Rock & Roll." |
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