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    Posted: 12 November 2007 at 3:23am
My promo CD single (PRCD2725, but this # ONLY appears in the "CD deadwax".) This CD is brown in color, features no listed times, and contains:

1-(Nellee Hopper's 7") (actual 3:37)
2-(Teddy Riley's Rubba Dub) (actual 6:00)
3-(Big Beat A cappella) (actual 3:32)
4-(Club Mix) (Featuring Caron Wheeler) (actual 5:46)

There are currently a couple of versions of this song in the database where I thought this new information may be of some help.
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Your information certainly is helpful, Jim, and I thought I'd also add that the actual commercial 45 time of Soul II Soul's "Keep on Movin'" is 3:35, not 3:38 as printed on the record label. The 45 label also specifically states: (Nellee Hooper's 7"). I have confirmed the version description is spelled correctly, which is slightly different than what Jim reported on Track 1 of his promo CD. Jim, when you have an opportunity, could you please double-check and see if your copy actually says (Nellee Hooper's 7") and not (Nellee Hopper's 7")?

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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

The 45 label also specifically states: (Neellee Hooper's 7"). I have confirmed the version description is spelled correctly...


Um, if so, then that begs the following: Why are you questioning the spelling of only the last name in jimct's original post??? :-)
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The commercial 45 states (Nellee Hooper's 7") on the record label. (I've gone back and corrected the typo in my original post.) So again, my question deals with whether Track 1 on the promo CD single states "Hooper" or "Hopper".

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Todd, I have re-checked my promo CD single, and track 1 IS, in fact, spelled "Hopper", not "Hooper" - my original post spelling was correct. However, on my commercial CD single for the song (info for which I did not include in my original post), on Cut 3, the only one referring to "Nellee" on that disc, it does spell the name as "Hooper" on there. So, since it appears that even Soul II Soul's record company (Virgin) didn't know what the correct spelling was back in 1989, what are our chances of getting to the bottom of this issue in '08, gentlemen? :)
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Probably not very high, Jim! Thank you for the clarification.
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Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Todd, I have re-checked my promo CD single, and track 1 IS, in fact, spelled "Hopper", not "Hooper" - my original post spelling was correct. However, on my commercial CD single for the song (info for which I did not include in my original post), on Cut 3, the only one referring to "Nellee" on that disc, it does spell the name as "Hooper" on there. So, since it appears that even Soul II Soul's record company (Virgin) didn't know what the correct spelling was back in 1989, what are our chances of getting to the bottom of this issue in '08, gentlemen? :)


His name is Nellee Hooper. He's a pretty popular producer/remixer.

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my commercial cassingle issued as virgin 99205 states on the label the version as (nellee hooper's 7") and listed run time of 3:38 but actually runs 3:37....it is identical to track #1 from the usa promo cd single that both jim and i have listed below

1-(Nellee Hopper's 7") (actual 3:37)
2-(Teddy Riley's Rubba Dub) (actual 6:00)
3-(Big Beat A cappella) (actual 3:32)
4-(Club Mix) (Featuring Caron Wheeler) (actual 5:46)

i do not have the commercial 45 to compare that to these findings....and i also can confirm the differing spellings of hooper/hopper on the promo cd single versus the cassingle.....








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I did the typo (Neellee Hooper's 7") when I informed Todd by an e-mail. I sincerely apologize.
The correct description on the 45 record label is (Nellee Hooper's 7")


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Unless I'm missing something, it appears that the 45
version is an early fade of the LP version. I didn't heard
any difference between the mixes.

Based on the timing from PolyTel Canada's Hits Plus
Hits, a 24-beat sinusoidal fade from 3:21-3:36 seems to
match the 45 pretty well.

Note that the true 45 runs at 93.4 BPM, or about 0.3%
faster than the album version at 93.1 BPM.
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