Kylie Minogue-"It’s No Secret"

Both sides of my promo 45, and my promo CD single for this song (PRO-CD-3412) all have a listed time of (3:33), but all have an actual time of (3:29). I have no commercial single configuration at all for this. Can someone confirm that its length is the (3:55) length I see in my new Whitburn Pop Annual? I do give that time some credibility, since the LP Version in the database for it states a run time of (3:56).

Edited by jimct

My commercial 45 of "It's No Secret" (Geffen 7-27651-A) states a time of 3:55 with a comment underneath the run time notating "LP Version" in parentheses. My actual timing of the 45 is indeed 3:55. It is a picture sleeve single, backed with the song entitled "Made In Heaven". I remember buying this off the shelves in 1988 or '89, while it was in the store's Top 40 section of (then) current singles.

Jon O.

Thanks, jimct. It's actually somewhat unusual for me to have a single past 1983, but for some reason I bought the three Kylie Minogue 1980's singles when they were released (and a few others from that time frame).

Glad I could contribute to the research, as I've been amazed at how much you've accomplished by doing this very same thing!

Jon O.

Loveland wrote: The single version was dubbed 'Edit' by the Geffen Records. It's included on the U.S. promo CD single and promo vinyl single. Inexplicably, the 'LP Version', specifically labeled as such by the label, is the mix included on all commercial configurations (vinyl single and cassette single).

If the LP version is the mix included on all commercial singles, then how can the "Edit" be considered the single version?

I think what you mean here is that the "Edit" is the hit version that radio played. It is not, however, the single version.

Why is it odd? I'll try to explain it again in a different way.

Back when the 45 was the main single format, more often than not there was no specific version listed on the record label. The only way you knew what was on the record was by playing it. What Pat has done in his database is to sort out which CDs contain the version that is on the A-side of the single or the full-length LP. He does this by simply stating (45 version) or (LP version) next to the disc in the database. This is not him trying to rename a single mix. It's simply an indication to the user that the version on the CD is the same one that appears on the A-side of the commercial single.

If the database instead said (Edit) next to the CD title, how would the user know if that's the version that appears on the US vinyl 7" single? He wouldn't. He'd then have to do further research. The database simplifies this. You don't need to know the specific name of the mix. All you need to do is look at the designator, and if it says (45 version), you know that's the version from the A-side of the single. Many of us use "single version" (all lower case letters) as an extension of "45 version" because by the late '80s, the 45 was no longer the dominant format. If you see Single Version with capital letters, that means it's a specific mix as labeled by the record company.