Extreme - "More Than Words"

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   I noticed a designation of "LP version" in Pat's book, so I set out to figure out what the single version would be and if it can be edited down from the LP version.

Long story short: In addition to being a over a minute shorter than the LP version, the single is a "remix" and can't be edited down from the LP version.

I have the "Remix" (printed 4:11) on the B-side of the commercial 45 for "Get The Funk Out" (red-label A&M 75021 1552 7).  It's labeled as "More Than Words - Remix", with a credit of "Remixed and Additional Recording by Nuno Bettencourt and Bob St. John".  There's quite a bit more vocal harmony added, and it's most obvious at the 2:19 break that leads into the two bumps on the guitar - there are harmonies on the "remix", but just the bare guitar on the LP version.

Fortunately, the "remix" appears on the CD Sounds Of The '90s - 1991 (Time-Life R614-02, 2001, run 4:09), with very nice sound to match.

All the other compilations I own that include "More Than Words" use the LP version, which runs 5:33.  For mastering sticklers like myself, I'll list what I know; these all sound quite nice, and I didn't hear any real difference in sound quality among any of these:PGD Presents Great Sounds Sound Savers Classic Rock No. 6 (1995; most likely is digitally identical to Pornograffitti, but don't have that CD)
Hot Hits Vol. 5 (1991; digitally exactly 0.333 dB louder than PGD...)
Mega Hits (PolyTel Canada 845 609-2, 1991; digitally exactly 0.6 dB quieter than PGD...)
Body Talk - Forever Love (Time-Life R834-22, 2001)
Now & Forever - Timeless Wedding Songs (Rhino R2 75610, 1999; digitally exactly 0.5 dB quieter than Body Talk)
Schwartz Brothers Compact Disc Sampler Vol. 7 (1991)

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crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Extreme - "More Than Words" Posted: 22 January 2008 at 7:35pm
	I noticed a designation of "LP version" in Pat's book, so I set out to figure out what the single version would be and if it can be edited down from the LP version. Long story short: In addition to being a over a minute shorter than the LP version, the single is a "remix" and can't be edited down from the LP version. I have the "Remix" (printed 4:11) on the B-side of the commercial 45 for "Get The Funk Out" (red-label A&M 75021 1552 7). It's labeled as "More Than Words - Remix", with a credit of "Remixed and Additional Recording by Nuno Bettencourt and Bob St. John". There's quite a bit more vocal harmony added, and it's most obvious at the 2:19 break that leads into the two bumps on the guitar - there are harmonies on the "remix", but just the bare guitar on the LP version. Fortunately, the "remix" appears on the CD Sounds Of The '90s - 1991 (Time-Life R614-02, 2001, run 4:09), with very nice sound to match. All the other compilations I own that include "More Than Words" use the LP version, which runs 5:33. For mastering sticklers like myself, I'll list what I know; these all sound quite nice, and I didn't hear any real difference in sound quality among any of these: PGD Presents Great Sounds Sound Savers Classic Rock No. 6 (1995; most likely is digitally identical to Pornograffitti, but don't have that CD) Hot Hits Vol. 5 (1991; digitally exactly 0.333 dB louder than PGD...) Mega Hits (PolyTel Canada 845 609-2, 1991; digitally exactly 0.6 dB quieter than PGD...) Body Talk - Forever Love (Time-Life R834-22, 2001) Now & Forever - Timeless Wedding Songs (Rhino R2 75610, 1999; digitally exactly 0.5 dB quieter than Body Talk) Schwartz Brothers Compact Disc Sampler Vol. 7 (1991)

Steve Sharp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 08 November 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve Sharp Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 January 2008 at 7:20am
	The remix also contains additional percussion by the legendary Paulina Dacosta (hope I spelled his name correctly).

AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 31	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 January 2008 at 9:20am
	Hi Steve, The correct spelling is 'Paulinho Da Costa'. People, please keep in mind that most CHR/Top-40 stations played the second cut on the promo Cd labeled "More Than Words - Remix" with a time of 3:43, remixed by Brian Malouf, & having a different ending than the 4:11 remix!! (Cut #1 is the 4:11 version.) Andy

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 190	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 June 2010 at 9:56pm
	Andy, I just noticed that this valuable promo CD info has not been incorporated into the database. To summarize, the single version that runs 4:11 does not have ANY percussion. The "Remix" has the percussion (basically just some shakers) and runs 3:43.

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 August 2010 at 7:30pm
	Here are the official details from my 1991 promo CD single. FYI, we played Cut 2 on-air on a current: -Extreme-"More Than Words" (75021 7515 2) 1-More Than Words (L 4:11; A 4:09) 2-More Than Words - Remix (L 3:43; A 3:42)

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 January 2012 at 11:49am
	Another important detail here regarding Extreme's "More Than Words"... The cassette single release contains the same two tracks that appear on Jim's promo CD single: 1) More Than Words - 4:09 (printed time: 4:11) 2) More Than Words - Remix - 3:42 (printed time: 3:43) Interestingly, the shorter 3:42 remix version that most Top 40 stations played has yet to appear on a commercial CD release!