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    Posted: 25 January 2008 at 2:00pm
I did a search for previous discussions of this and didn't see anything.

All database entries say "neither the 45 nor LP version." What is the difference on the 45? iTunes has an OOP Flying Machine CD called "Flight Recorder," track 13 of which is mono and described (by other sources) as "US Single Version." Is this the true 45 version?
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Is the time listed (2:49)?

I have the Varese "25 Greatest Bubblegum Classics" CD with a (2:49) mono version that Pat does not have the "neither" designation for. TTBOMK, the only difference is the longer versions have a little keyboard intro before the beginning, whereas the mono version does not.
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The time is listed as 2:56 on iTunes for "Flight Recorder." The listed time on the 45 is 2:55.
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I grabbed the track in question off of Napster. I'd betcha it's the 45 version and mastered from vinyl! You can
hear surface noise as the track fades out...

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Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

All database entries say "neither the 45 nor LP version." What is the difference on the 45?
Two things always jumped out at me, Brian. 1) Assuming you have Rhino's "Super Hits Of The 70's, Vol. 1" handy, the :05 1/2 second keyboard intro was chopped off for the 45, and, 2) Near the end of the song, between (2:33) and (2:43) on the above-mentioned CD, a brief "ba-ba-ba-ba-baaa-ba" vocal interlude was removed for the single, and was replaced on the 45 by a similarly brief "horn, bugle" solo, right before the final chorus.
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Based on Jim's description above, then the mono version available on Napster and iTunes is the 45 version.
Like I said, mastered from vinyl!
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Thanks, Jim and eriejwg. Hmm, so I wonder if the mono version on "25 All-Time Greatest Bubblegum Hits" is the 45 version.

(As a side note, this is one of the earliest songs I remember hearing on the radio.)
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Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

All database entries say "neither the 45 nor LP version." What is the difference on the 45?
Two things always jumped out at me, Brian. 1) Assuming you have Rhino's "Super Hits Of The 70's, Vol. 1" handy, the :05 1/2 second keyboard intro was chopped off for the 45, and, 2) Near the end of the song, between (2:33) and (2:43) on the above-mentioned CD, a brief "ba-ba-ba-ba-baaa-ba" vocal interlude was removed for the single, and was replaced on the 45 by a similarly brief "horn, bugle" solo, right before the final chorus.


Correct in that this is not the U.S. single version, however it IS the UK single version. Why they changed it for the US is anyone's guess, but it seems a LOT of songs got slightly different versions when issued in the US verses the UK (a few Dave Clark Five songs come to mind as does I'll Be There by Gerry & The Pacemakers).
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Originally posted by TomDiehl1 TomDiehl1 wrote:

Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

All database entries say "neither the 45 nor LP version." What is the difference on the 45?
Two things always jumped out at me, Brian. 1) Assuming you have Rhino's "Super Hits Of The 70's, Vol. 1" handy, the :05 1/2 second keyboard intro was chopped off for the 45, and, 2) Near the end of the song, between (2:33) and (2:43) on the above-mentioned CD, a brief "ba-ba-ba-ba-baaa-ba" vocal interlude was removed for the single, and was replaced on the 45 by a similarly brief "horn, bugle" solo, right before the final chorus.


Correct in that this is not the U.S. single version, however it IS the UK single version. Why they changed it for the US is anyone's guess, but it seems a LOT of songs got slightly different versions when issued in the US verses the UK (a few Dave Clark Five songs come to mind as does I'll Be There by Gerry & The Pacemakers).


If this is the case, then the database should probably be updated to have all the "neither the 45 nor LP version" comments changed to "U.K. 45 version", just like in the case of Gerry & The Pacemaker's "I'll Be There".
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I've reviewed the "25 All-Time Bubblegum Hits" and "Super Hits Of The 70's Volume 1" versions. To continue the discussion: if the mono "25 All-Time Greatest Bubblegum Hits" version is the US 45 version and the stereo "Super Hits of the 70's Volume 1" version is the UK 45 version, then is there a different "LP version" and, if so, (1) what are the differences between that and either of the 45 versions and (2) other than the vinyl LP "The Flying Machine" (Janus 3007), where can it be found on import CD?
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