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jimct 
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 Topic: Winstons-"Color Him Father"Posted: 09 June 2008 at 11:20am |
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My commercial 45, which is stereo, and confirmed as Metromedia 117, has a listed time of (3:06), but an actual time of (3:15). My 45 goes clearly longer than the Rhino, Varese and Time-Life CDs for this song in the database. There are a few (3:13) length versions for this song in the database, all on the "Thump" label, but they unfortunately all appear in mono.
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Hykker
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Posted: 09 June 2008 at 6:27pm |
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Are the mono versions a true mono mix (as was the mono side of the promo single), or just a fold-down? This one ranks high on my "wish I had it on a promo copy" list...the stereo mix was just awful...even listening in stereo the lead singer's voice gets buried, if folded to mono it's even worse.
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boynamedfoo
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 9:52am |
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Question, the DB heading lists the 45 as 3:15 per jimct's posting, but the 4 (M) 3:13 listings still say :07 secs. longer than 45 or Lp. Am I missing something or I'm guessing it's a mistake?
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TomDiehl1
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 9:36pm |
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There are 2 different 45 pressings for this.... one pressing has the vocal in the center channel, the other pressing has the lead vocal off to one side...
Jim, what are the deadwax matrix numbers for your pressing and are they handwritten or machine stamped? |
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TomDiehl1
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Posted: 24 March 2010 at 1:03am |
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Just came across one of my two stock copies of this 45, the version with the centered vocals....it is styrene and has a handwritten deadwax matrix of ZTS-144398-1A. Indeed it does have a playing time of 3:15. Will update when i come across my other copy of the single.
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TomDiehl1
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Posted: 11 April 2010 at 8:27pm |
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Just came across my other copy of Color Him Father by the Winstons. Both pressings of my 45's are on styrene (i did have a vinyl pressing of the variation with vocals in one channel once but that copy is long gone), both are confirmed as Metromedia MMS-117, both labels list a playing time of 3:06. As mentioned above, my pressing with the handwritten matrix numbers times out to (3:15) and has centered vocals.
The copy I came across today has the machine stamped deadwax numbers. Those stamped numbers are ZTS 144398-2C. This copy times out to (3:06) and has vocals off to one side. Edited by TomDiehl1 |
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Todd Ireland
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Posted: 12 April 2010 at 8:47pm |
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Tom:
Is the "Color Him Father" commercial 45 pressing with the centered vocals in stereo? |
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Hykker
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Posted: 13 April 2010 at 5:42am |
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Do all copies with the handwritten matrix #s have the centered vocals, and all stamped ones have them panned to one side?
If so, makes it easy to find whichever version you're missing. |
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TomDiehl1
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Posted: 13 April 2010 at 11:17pm |
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Todd, both pressings of my 45 are indeed stereo.
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TomDiehl1
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Posted: 13 April 2010 at 11:18pm |
For now, until proven otherwise, i'd say it's safe to assume that. i don't know which version appears on the reissue 45 however. |
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