American Breed - Bend Me, Shape Me

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   My 45 of Bend Me, Shape Me by the American Breed (Acta 45-811) runs (2:10) while the label states (2:05). On the vinyl LP, the actual running time is (2:25) and there seems to be a large discrepency in running times on various cd's that contain this song so I thought I would delve into this mess to try and clarify the entries in the database.  Right off the bat I find that my vinyl 45 has a matrix number of A-534 RE1 indicating that there could very well be another pressing with no RE-1 that might run longer or at a different speed than my RE-1 45.  If anyone has this 45 without the RE-1 could you time it and post the results? 

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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: American Breed - Bend Me, Shape Me Posted: 09 July 2008 at 5:09pm
	My 45 of Bend Me, Shape Me by the American Breed (Acta 45-811) runs (2:10) while the label states (2:05). On the vinyl LP, the actual running time is (2:25) and there seems to be a large discrepency in running times on various cd's that contain this song so I thought I would delve into this mess to try and clarify the entries in the database. Right off the bat I find that my vinyl 45 has a matrix number of A-534 RE1 indicating that there could very well be another pressing with no RE-1 that might run longer or at a different speed than my RE-1 45. If anyone has this 45 without the RE-1 could you time it and post the results?

Yah Shure Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yah Shure Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 July 2008 at 7:26pm
	My copy (styrene, Monarch pressing) is also an RE-1. Edited by Yah Shure

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 July 2008 at 10:49am
	Pat, my 45 has the "RE-1" in the deadwax as well.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 September 2011 at 1:30pm
	my commercial 45 issued as acta 811 contains "A-534 RE-1" in the runout groove as well....
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Hykker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hykker Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 September 2011 at 6:05am
	Add another "RE-1" to the list (though my copy is vinyl).

MPH711 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 06 April 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MPH711 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 September 2011 at 6:31am
	I know when this came out in mono on a Dick Bartley CD (On The Radio Vol. 3) he mentions that the 45 was "speeded up" vs. the LP version.

KentT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote KentT Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2011 at 11:37am
	It is, the LP version I heard recently sounds slow to my ear. The Mono 45 rules.
	I turn up the good and turn down the bad!

MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 October 2011 at 11:38am
	I can add that when this track was researched for the Eric cd, Tom Daly's 45 (which matches all the above info) did NOT match the sped up version on the Dick Bartley CD. We could not locate a 45 that was like that, very sped up, and had a longer ending like the LP version. We don't think the guys mastering the Bartley cd were wrong, but don't know the 45 source. Our theory was maybe he had a DJ 45 with this version, or there were 2 pressings. But we went with what was on Tom's 45 to match pitch and time, as i recall. -MM

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2011 at 7:08pm
	I have both a commercial copy and a dj copy of this 45 and both are the RE-1 pressings (and running times) - that is why I am trying to find a copy that does not have the RE-1 designation as that may explain the appearance of the Dick Bartley "45 version" on the "On The Radio Volume 3" cd. After going back and listening to a number of cd's that contain Bend Me, Shape Me I do not believe any of the cd appearances that were mastered from tape (whether mono or stereo) contain the true 45 mix (at least the RE-1 version) and that includes "On The Radio Volume 3". Edited by Pat Downey

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 46	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 October 2011 at 9:42am
	Pat, what is different or unique about your vinyl 45 that doesn't match the version on the Eric CD, which would be the closest we have to the 45 (Mark stating that version matched Tom Daly's 45).
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