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    Posted: 12 September 2009 at 8:13pm
I realize this release compiles their UK cannon, but are
the correct mono single versions of The Beatles' hits now
available on this boxed set or did the UK and US single
mixes differ?

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A lot of the early songs are obvioiusly different as the American versions had reverb and compression added. Most notabale were I Feel Fine and She's a Woman.

I'll Cry Instead was longer on the US single (I don't think it was a UK single at all)

My assumption is the mono box is the UK mono LP mixes.

But someone who has it will have to review it to be sure.

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I've always wondered about this, Bill, which is why I also asked the question a few weeks ago. In the database, there are only a few songs that specify "US 45 version with extra reverb added." Most of the other early songs either do not have notations or, if they do, make no mention of any reverb differences. Is this an oversight?

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No, only I Feel Fine and She's a Woman had extra reverb added, and POSSIBLY "Please Please Me," though as Aaron, Paul, and I recently deduced, if there is any extra reverb on the US version, it's so subtle that it's not audible. It appears to us that any different sound between the album and single versions of "Please Please Me" (at least, on the new mono remaster) are merely due to different EQing, not to added reverb.

As far as I can tell, the only US mono single mixes that were different from their British counterparts were:

- I Feel Fine (drenched in reverb -- on The Capitol Albums Vol 2)
- She's a Woman (drenched in reverb -- on The Capitol Albums Vol 2)
- And I Love Her (US is single-tracked vocal; on The Capitol Albums Vol 2)
- I Am the Walrus (British mono version is an EDIT -- the US mono single had an extra two-second bit right before the "yellow matted custard" line. This has never been issued on CD.)

I've also read (but have not verified) that the full volume drum hit at the end of the "Ballad of John and Yoko" on "Beatles 1" and the new remaster of "Past Masters" was on the 45, so if that's true, the full length 45 version is really only on those two CDs. (Though I suppose if you could boost the sound of the drum hit with an audio editor.) EDIT: Okay, I guess I verified it. According to the Usenet Guide to Beatles Recording Variations, "The single release has a loud final drumbeat; it is faded on the other releases."

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 September 2009 at 7:02am
Brian, thanks a TON for clearing that up! I'm going to obtain the Capitol Albums sets, since I don't currently own any of the early Beatles albums.
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Has the single version of Yellow Submarine appeared on cd yet? It had a guitar drum on the words "In The", while the mono and stereo album versions do not.
Live in stereo.
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I highly recommend both of the Beatles Capitol Albums box sets, Aaron. You'll hear the early Beatles music in the exact mono and stereo mixes (though sometimes in electronically rechanneled stereo) as they were originally presented to U.S. audiences.
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Tom, yes, Yellow Submarine has appeared in single form on CD. It's been on
the Beatles Singles Box all along, and now it appears on the new Beatles in
Mono box.
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Here's another difference between a Beatles UK and US 45. According to the Usenet Guide to Beatles Recording Variations, the brief studio chatter at the beginning of "For You Blue" was omitted from the US 45. Perhaps someone on the board with a copy can verify that.

According to the same source, on later pressings of "Baby You're a Rich Man," there was the tail end of an apparent countoff right before the song starts, either "seven" or "eleven." (I guess it's just "even.") But this was not present on the early pressings of the song, so it was probably not on the "hit version."

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Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

Here's another difference between a Beatles UK and US 45. According to the Usenet Guide to Beatles Recording Variations, the brief studio chatter at the beginning of "For You Blue" was omitted from the US 45.


Thanks, Brian. I'd been wondering about that, since the chatter is not on either of my re-issue 45s.

"The Long And Winding Road/For You Blue" was not issued as a 45 in the UK, which is why it is not on the singles box.



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