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    Posted: 18 October 2009 at 9:35pm
Listening to AT40 on XM online, I'm hearing the 10/13/73 week (which also happens to be the week syndicated to radio this weekend). So I'm listening at #35 for Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross' "You're A Special Part Of Me," and what I heard was actually the B-side of that song ("I'm Falling In Love With You"). So what I'm wondering is whether the syndicated version also features that restoration error.
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The AT40 shows that Sirius/XM receives are the same as the versions Premiere Radio Networks receives. The shows are restored to the original show airings, errors and all.
However, as some of you have probably noticed, Premiere will edit out extras, theme music, etc in the iterests of fitting the show into three hours for the 70s version and four hours for the 80s version. However, these edits are relatively minor and do not greatly impact the integrity of the show. Sirius/XM, however, really does a hatchet job on the shows, basically editing out everything except Casey talking and the songs. The show lengths are greatly reduced on Sirius/XM. All in all, though, I will even take a highly edited show over no opportunity to hear these shows at all.
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So what you're saying is that the original broadcast had the wrong record played?

Seems kind of odd.
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AT 40 had a lot of filler in it like the long-distance dedication (Snuckles the dog anyone?), the #1 song 10 years ago, etc. I'm guessing these features were added when the show was lengthened in the 70s to accomodate the longer songs of the day, and were there to pad out the show when needed.
When the show itself is a 30+ year old flashback, these are a bit superfluous. Ideally, the show should run as originally produced, but if editing needs to be done, I'd guess this stuff would be the first to go.

I am surprised that a nationally-distributed, pre-produced show like this would accidentally play the wrong side of a song though. You'd think the production company would be able to get promo copies (which by this point were mostly double-A sided)!!

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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

So what you're saying is that the original broadcast had the wrong record played?

Seems kind of odd.
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Every now and then an AT40 show was produced with errors that slipped through the cracks (such as the wrong record being played, Casey naming the record incorrectly, etc.), and they went out to the radio stations this way afters the LPs were pressed. The errors on the 70s shows are described in the week-by-week summaries contained in the Battistini book.
Today, the shows are remastered as they originally aired.    Therefore, the new shows on Premiere and Sirius/XM will have the same errors as the original versions. If the wrong record was originally played, you will hear it this way on the remastered/restored version on a Premiere affiliate or Sirius/XM.
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Originally posted by maciav maciav wrote:

Sirius/XM, however, really does a hatchet job on the shows, basically editing out everything except Casey talking and the songs. The show lengths are greatly reduced on Sirius/XM.


I understand why Premiere would cut some of those extra features (In fact, it looks like the shows were reformatted into 8 segments per hour, vs. 6 as originally aired in the '70s -- this seems to allow stations to drop some of the really forgotten songs.) But I've definitely heard long-distance dedications and "flashback" tracks on the satellite reruns.

I think the show lengths on Sirius/XM are shortened largely by removing the commercial breaks. Remember, the original shows - with commercial breaks/avails - were only 3 hours until ~1978, so removing the commercials, the 3-hour shows are <2:30, and 4-hour shows are only about 3:00-3:15 long. You can compare the Sirius/XM shows to the original cue sheets at charismusicgroup.com.

By the way, Sirius/XM's "80s on 8" channel has dropped AT40 in favor of a countdown produced by their own jocks, the old MTV VJs. The '70s shows are still on "70s on 7."

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I'm disappointed that they've dropped the 80's version of AT40.
The original VJ's always sound like their phoning it in.
They sound so bored.
I hope they keep the 70's countdowns on the 70's channel.
That show reminds me of my youth when top 40 in the 70s was like going to a large buffet.
I do agree that Sirius does a hack job on the show.
I wish one time they would let the original jingle music run to the end.
Talk about errors, back in December during a 1972 show they played the wrong Rod Stewart song. Instead of "Angel" they played what I believe was the flip side.
A small amount of radio stations play the shows on weekends.
I'm not sure I would air it when some weeks there are
some extremely obscure songs on the show.
This past week's 1973 show had a ton of them.
The average listener would tune out.

For a short time they had Rick Dees on the 90's channel.
the way it was heard on the radio
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To 'bwolfe':

While I won't argue your estimation that the "average listener would tune out", I am under the impression that people tune IN to the reruns of Casey to hear a snapshot of the way it really was.

Keep in mind that the "extremely obscure songs on the show" are only obscure because highly formatted terrestrial retro-radio ("Oldies", Jammin' Oldies, Classic Rock et al.) has forgotton them on purpose, therefore the average (younger) listener won't know them irrespective of their impact at the time or their sales.

Citing this past weekends AT-40 rerun, "Jesse" (Roberta Flack) is an incredible Janis Ian song, "Jimmy Loves Mary Anne (Looking Glass) was played heavily on TM's 'Stereo Rock' format, "Ecstacy" (Ohio Players) sold a ton of singles.

The classic American Top-40 shows keep some of these songs from being totally obliterated to the average oldies radio listener, and that's a good thing.

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Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

highly formatted terrestrial retro-radio ("Oldies", Jammin' Oldies, Classic Rock et al.)

It amazes me that the "masses" opt to hear the same tired songs over and over. I enjoy listening to the radio, but there is not one station in Dallas that can hold my attention for more than 15 minutes. A song always comes on that I'm totally burned out on.
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