emf "lies"

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   my commercial cassingle of the song lies by emf issued as emi 50363 does not state a version on the cassingle or sleeve but is an edit of the full length 4:27 cd/lp version and runs 3:37......this cassingle info s/b added to the db....

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: emf "lies" Posted: 30 December 2009 at 10:22am
	my commercial cassingle of the song lies by emf issued as emi 50363 does not state a version on the cassingle or sleeve but is an edit of the full length 4:27 cd/lp version and runs 3:37......this cassingle info s/b added to the db....
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PaulEschen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 December 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulEschen Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 February 2010 at 8:48am
	My cassette single (same label and #) has an intro that cannot be recreated from the version I have on the CD Schubert Dip (EMI 96238). The cassette single intro has four quick drum hits, and a screechy keyboard over the second part of the intro, before the vocal comes in at approximately 9 seconds. I wonder if this version is one of the mixes listed on the UK CD single (the "Where's Axl" mix and so forth).

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 February 2010 at 10:43pm
	I own a promo CD single for this song, and here are the details, which includes another listed timing error - this time, cut 1's time is inaccurate by :39 seconds: EMF-"Lies" (DPRO-4816) 1-Lies (Where's Axl?) (listed 3:38; actual 4:17) 2-Lies (listed 3:38; actual 3:37) 3-Lies (The Hit Man Mix) (listed 3:59; actual 4:01) Edited by jimct

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 December 2011 at 6:45pm
	Well, this is interesting... The database indicates that EMF's "Lies" has a run time of 4:27 on the CD Schubert Dip (EMI 96238). However, the song only runs 4:19 on my copy of that disc and is identical to how the track appears on the EMF/Jesus Jones Back 2 Back Hits CD (EMI-Capitol Special Markets 19641), which has a database comment of "LP version but missing the :07 prologue". So I must have a different CD pressing of Schubert Dip because I don't see or hear a :07 prologue preceding "Lies". What exactly is my copy missing?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 210	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2011 at 12:59am
	Yes, your copy is probably missing the spoken part with some lyrics recited from John Lennon's "Watching The Wheels." From Wikipedia: ...controversial for including a voice sample of Mark Chapman, John Lennon's murderer. Yoko Ono achieved an injunction, and a modified version was included in future pressings.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 December 2011 at 11:47am
	Thanks for the info, Aaron. Upon further research, it appears the :07 Mark Chapman prologue only appeared on early pressings of EMF's Schubert Dip. Shortly after the album's initial release, EMI quickly modified all future pressings after Yoko Ono sued to have the prologue removed. So it sounds like Schubert Dip CD pressings containing the LP version of "Lies" with the (creepy) :07 prologue may be rare and possibly even considered a collector's item. Does anyone know if there are any distinguishing features on these early pressings that would indicate if the :07 prologue is on them (i.e. - different matrix number, catalog number, etc.)? Also, does anyone recall which version of "Lies" they most often heard (or played) on the radio?

PaulEschen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 December 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulEschen Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 June 2017 at 11:58am
	My commercial cassingle information matches edtop40's, and this version matches Track 2 of jimct's promo CD. The cassingle version is NOT the same as the "Where's Axl?" mix, as you can tell from the opening drums.