genesis "man on the corner"

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   anyone know if this song in it's 45 version is available on cd..........it didn't make pat's list BUT it did make the billboard top 40.........the cd version runs 4:27 while 45 runs 3:40...........is it an early fade or could it be edited with a computer software program??

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: genesis "man on the corner" Posted: 31 December 2005 at 1:34pm
	anyone know if this song in it's 45 version is available on cd..........it didn't make pat's list BUT it did make the billboard top 40.........the cd version runs 4:27 while 45 runs 3:40...........is it an early fade or could it be edited with a computer software program??
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sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 December 2005 at 2:55pm
	How does the 45 open--with a drum track or a keyboard? If it opens with the keyboard, then I'm pretty sure you'd need to snip off the opening drum sequence and then fade early. If the 45 opens with the drum, then I'm not sure what needs to be edited. Edited by sriv94
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 January 2006 at 6:46pm
	okay.........just got my 45 copy in the mail today.....the 45 is just an edit of the cd version.......the front 0:18 of the song is edited out and then it's faded out to the 3:56 mark on the cd version so your net run time on the 45 is 3:38.....
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sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 January 2006 at 5:57pm
	Good job. Just created the edit. Another one off the list.
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2008 at 1:48pm
	my commercial 45 issued as atlantic 4025 does not state a version on the sleeve or label but it does state a run time of 3:40 and truely does run that length....if you edit out the first 0:18 and then fade the "abacab" cd version you'll effectively re-create the true 45 version.....thanks john!!
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 132	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2008 at 8:36pm
	Actually, the 45 version of "Man On The Corner" is remixed. You cannot create the 45 version from the LP version. It's been a while since I've compared the two, but I'll try to provide more details when I get time.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 53	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2008 at 9:42pm
	When creating a edit/fade from the LP version for Ed, Aaron, I noticed right away that the 45 sounded quite different. Guess I was correct. Time to head to ebay for a 45!

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 November 2008 at 10:38pm
	it isn't remixed.......it's just eq'ed.....listen again......the cymbals and bongos are just upfront..
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 132	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2008 at 6:27am
	Ed, I do recall the percussion being brought forward in the mix. It's not just a simple EQ change, though. I'll give it a more thorough listen when I get home later this evening.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 132	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2008 at 6:42pm
	Ed, you are definitely correct that it has been EQ'd brighter on the 45. You are also correct that the bongos and cymbals have been brought forward in the mix quite a bit. Phil's vocals have also been mixed slightly differently (in terms of volume), and his background vocals have been brought forward a little. It is true, however, that nothing new has been added, as far as instrumentation or effects. The bottom line is that the 45 was, in a sense, remixed, since someone took the time to move the percussion forward and tinker with the vocal levels a little---something that cannot be done without going back to the original multi-track tapes.