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   Although the database lists 45 version but faster for "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" on Varese Sarabande's Disco Classics compilation, this is not correct.  I just compared the actual 45 to the version on the cd, and the edits are completely different.

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Santa Esmeralda - Don’t Let Me Be... Posted: 12 January 2006 at 9:04pm
	Although the database lists 45 version but faster for "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" on Varese Sarabande's Disco Classics compilation, this is not correct. I just compared the actual 45 to the version on the cd, and the edits are completely different.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 26	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 January 2006 at 12:47am
	The version on Disco Classics was taken directly from the 45 (the vinyl) and cleaned up with software, since apparently the master tape couldn't be found for it. So it is the 45 version, but there were actually 2 45 versions -- I remember the store I bought this at had the regular version (maybe around 3:48) and also a completely different 45 that clocked in at over 5 minutes. Maybe you have that 45. Thanks to my friend Mark who contributes to this board, I have the 3:48 version/edit on CD (not from vinyl!) If that's the version you're looking for, I can send you an mp3.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 January 2006 at 7:44am
	The 45 I listened to has a printed run time of (3:48), but it does not start off the way the Disco Classics version begins. I did not clock the entire 45 to see how long it ran. I also have a vinyl transfer of the (3:48) edit, and it does not match the Disco Classics version either. Maybe there was more than one (3:48) edit?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 January 2006 at 2:40pm
	Gordon & I have been discussing and comparing notes thru e-mail, and we are almost to the conclusion that three different commercial 45s were released for this song. I'm working on getting a dub of my friend's 45 and the label/matrix info to say for sure. That 45 states a run time of (3:48) and I think it runs very close to that. Gordon has the 45 with the Disco Classics edit and the one he mentions that runs 5+ minutes. None of these 45s have any indication of "promo" on the label. More details soon... Please chime in if you have further info.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 26	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 January 2006 at 3:49pm
	To clarify, Aaron and I believe there are 2 commercial singles of this song that clock in at 3:48, but are very different edits -- the easiest way to distinguish them is that one begins with a clap and one does not, but of course, like I said, they are very different. In terms of the two 3:48 versions, I've only known the "clap-begin" version -- from the radio and from every 45 I've seen or had. I also had (though no longer do) a 45 version of this that clocked in at about 5 and half minutes. I bought it at a store that never sold promos, back in the year of release. Edited by EdisonLite

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 January 2006 at 3:12pm
	OK, I just had my friend dub a copy of the 45, and he was also kind enough to Xerox a copy of the label. Although the edit on this 45 does not start off with the clapping, it is the (5:25) edit that is on his 45. Now, I have this song copied on a CD-R from a different friend, who also did a vinyl transfer, and that edit begins the same way as the (5:25) version---no clapping on the intro---and runs (3:48). HOWEVER, I have not yet confirmed if this edit is one that he created. It sounds to me like he may have transferred the (5:25) version and took a chunk out of the middle. If that's the case, then there is only ONE (3:48) version and the (5:25) version. I'll post the info as soon as I hear back from him. Sorry for the confusion.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2006 at 1:27pm
	I just did a digital re-creation of the short 45 version, and I can see why Varese decided to do a vinyl transfer. I counted at least 11 edits, and very few of them were in the same sequence as the LP version. The edit repeats an earlier part, skips toward the end, and then comes back to an earlier part. There's even one splice that lasts less than three seconds. What a hatchet job!

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 October 2006 at 1:33pm
	While I'm on the subject, I wanted to point out that my source copy (from the Kill Bill soundtrack) has a very slight delay in the right channel. I never really noticed it before, but when you zoom in to view what the wave file looks like up close, you can see that the right side is a fraction of a second behind.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 October 2006 at 10:05am
	I just re-created the (5:25) edit, and it's also a real butcher job. There's at least a dozen edits in this one, too, and the fadeout uses an earlier section of the song.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 110	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 October 2010 at 8:37pm
	Bummer. I just discovered that the Kill Bill soundtrack uses an mp3 source for this song, which is unfortunately the source I used when re-creating the single versions. :(