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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Pat,
Re: My girl (Gone, Gone, Gone) - just noticed this in the database. the version on these cd's: "Lost 45's of the 70's and 80's" "Then - Totally Oldies 80's 5" is not the U.S. 45 version. The version on these cd's and my Canadian Best-of are the original mix. It was re- mixed for the U.S. Millenium LP, and the U.S. 45 was edited from that remix. The original Canadian mix sounds very "mono" with most elements center, and mono reverb. The U.S. remix sounds fuller, wider mix with stereo reverb, altho this is easier to hear under headphones. The easiest way to spot the original Canadian mix is in the intro. Both start with the chant "gone gone gone she been gone so long, she been gone gone gone so long". However; The segment as the drums start at :14, from :14 to :22 they chant "gone gone gone she been gone so long well i wonder if i'm ever gonna see my girl" twice. THAT segment was edited out of the American mix. The lead vocal should start at :14 on both the U.S. LP and 45 versions. I don't have either cd listed with "LP Version" but i'd assume they are the U.S. LP version - but as ar as i know the Millenium 45 version is not on cd yet. MM |
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Hmmm I wonder if we have a case of there being 2 different US pressings of this 45 as I have 4 dj copies of this single, all pressed in the US, Millennium 11813, matrix number YB-11813-A and they all match what Mark describes as the Canadian version and is the version on the cd "Lost 45s of the '70s & '80s". I do not have a commercial copy but it seems strange that the dj copy would not equal the commercial copy so can anyone else that has a commercial copy please check which version you own and pass along a matrix number as well?
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My Millennium 11813 stock 45 is a Sterling-mastered styrene RCA Indianapolis pressing, and has the same "YB-11813-A" deadwax matrix number as your DJ 45s, Pat. It also matches your description.
The drums start at 12.7 seconds, the "... well, I wonder if I'm ever gonna see my girl" line is repeated twice, and the lead vocal begins at the :22 mark. The mix sounds identical to the "near mono" mix Mark cited on the Canadian mix, with only the finger snaps providing any significant stereo separation during the intro. I can't detect any mix differences between my stock U.S. 45 and the track on the 1988 Canadian Chilliwack Greatest Hits CD on Solid Gold (VCK 80129.) |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Well, this is a head scratcher for me.
The "Greatest Hits" cd was the first time i'd ever heard that mix. and of course now that i bring this up, i long ago got rid of my 45. I have a digital dub of my u.s. LP, but that doesn't really help here. I see i messed up where the lead vocal starts for the u.s. LP version, it's actually :18. Well, now i certainly know that what i call the Canadian mix was indeed on the Millenium 45 - but hopefully i can locate a 45 that matches what i recall on my pressing. MM |
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RichM921 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Although I can't help you on the 45 question, I can confirm that the
edit you mention with the vocals coming in at :14 does exist. I have it on a various artists LP called "Rock Power Music" released in 1983 on RCA. Since I never owned the 45, I just assumed this was the single version. Now I too am curious from where this edit originates. Edited by RichM921 |
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Jody Thornton ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 23 May 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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It originates from a Canadian promo 45. On the true edit though, the second chant is repeated twice (yes, for a total of four chants). That means the vocal comes in at .... hang on.
... ok back from the turntable, the vocal comes in at :18 seconds. Plus the picthc is slowed down on this mix by a semi-tome I would imagine. |
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Cheers,
Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Jody, the version you describe sounds like the LP mix.
that's basically how i recall my 45 but a little shorter, could have been an edit or an early fade. I'm also intrigued by the version Rich has on the RCA sampler. Pat, my apologies for raising a false alarm - from what i'm gathering the version listed as "45 version" is what was on most 45's out there. thanks for the extra info guys... MM |
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radiofan16 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 March 2016 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Bumping this thread back up, it appears that the version MMathews is
describing is the LP version, which runs 4:16 seconds. All 45 versions run 3:56 seconds and include the "wonder if I'm ever gonna see my girl" chant that starts after the drums kick in. This is absent in the LP version. |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Yes radiofan, I thought my old 45 was just an early fade
of the LP version. But no one here has ever encountered a pressing like that so once again my aging brain wires must have crossed. Funny thing was when I bought their Best-of on CD years later, I heard the 45 intro with the extra chants and felt I had never heard that before. MM |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 43 |
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It was never a hit in the U.S. (maybe in Canada) but a
good song from Chilliwack in 1977 was "Fly At Night" on the Mushroom label. Only the LP version, running almost 5 minutes, has shown up on CD. There was a stereo short version and a mono short version that had a listed time of 3:20. Somewhere, in a move or two, I misplaced my copy of the short version. It's one of those songs that either wasn't pushed by the label or the general public hated the song. I thought it was a good song. In fact, we played it at WWCB in Corry, PA briefly in 1977. |
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