Dr. Hook - Cover Of Rolling Stone

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   It has been called to my attention that there is a difference between the 45 and LP version of Dr. Hook's "Cover Of Rolling Stone".  This difference occurs from 1:41 to 1:43 where on the LP version (Sloppy Seconds) the fake audience applause is very noticeable on the LP (Sloppy Seconds and The Essential for example) but very subdued on the 45 version which appears on the Rhino Have A Nice Day Volume 10 cd.  So I would like a vote as to whether this should be referenced in the database as 45 "mix" or "version".

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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Dr. Hook - Cover Of Rolling Stone Posted: 02 October 2013 at 6:58pm
	It has been called to my attention that there is a difference between the 45 and LP version of Dr. Hook's "Cover Of Rolling Stone". This difference occurs from 1:41 to 1:43 where on the LP version (Sloppy Seconds) the fake audience applause is very noticeable on the LP (Sloppy Seconds and The Essential for example) but very subdued on the 45 version which appears on the Rhino Have A Nice Day Volume 10 cd. So I would like a vote as to whether this should be referenced in the database as 45 "mix" or "version".

Santi Paradoa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Santi Paradoa Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2013 at 7:17pm
	I vote mix.
	Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2013 at 7:23pm
	If the two recordings are identical other than the volume level of the applause from 1:41 to 1:43, then I think I'd be inclined to label this as a 45/LP "mix".

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2013 at 7:26pm
	Please listen before you vote as there may be no audience applause at 1:41.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2013 at 8:09pm
	I reviewed the song on the 2 sources I have at the moment, Super Hits and AM Gold 1973. On the Super Hits collection, I clearly hear the applause. On the AM Gold CD, I hear very little, if any, applause at the 1:41- 1:43 point. Not sure what the rules of the forum, but if the applause is almost absent, wouldn't that be a version difference?

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2013 at 8:11pm
	Ok, I've now listened closely to "The Cover of 'Rolling Stone'" on my copy of the Have a Nice Day Volume 10 CD and I don't hear the audience applause at 1:41. So I will now go on record to say this qualifies as a 45/LP "version", in my opinion.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 October 2013 at 8:15pm
	I definitely hear the overdubbed audience applause loud and clear at 1:41 on the Dr. Hook Greatest Hooks CD (Capitol 95766).

Santi Paradoa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Santi Paradoa Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 October 2013 at 6:35pm
	The applause certainly is not to be heard on the Rhino HAND disc as Todd points out. Whether you call it subdued or completely missing, if that makes it a version difference then I'll go with that. Regardless, I never noticed this difference until now. Thanks Pat for pointing it out.
	Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida

jono Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 26 September 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jono Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 October 2013 at 10:19am
	I can't hear any applause on the Rhino HAND cd (although it is difficult to tell due to the comparatively louder guitar there - my ears can't pick up whether or not it is mixed in); therefore, my vote would be a version difference and not a mix difference. The applause is certainly loud & clear on the "Greatest Hooks" cd, and the guitar is dulled a bit. Jon O.