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"The Third Man Theme" by Anton Karas |
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Chatfan MA ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 09 March 2015 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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It's really strange ... I am the owner of two 78s from
"The Third Man" Theme - London 536 Both have the same matrix #s DR.14268 but a different label text. AND each version has a different arrangement from the other in the final 30 seconds of the song, that's strange! Version 1: The 78 with DR.14268 (536-A) has the same text as the label shown first with the YouTube from BigBadBluesMan here DDR.14059 (536-A) but sounds different!: “THE THIRD MAN” THEME (Anton Karas) From the A. David O. Selznick and Sir Alexander Korda production THE THIRD MAN ANTON KARAS – Zither Solo As performed by him in the Film Version 2: The other 78 with DR.14268 (536-A) only indicates “THE THIRD MAN” THEME (Anton Karas) from "The Third Man" ANTON KARAS – Zither Solo The matrix # DDR.14059 that can be heard in YouTube corresponds to my version 2! And it's identical with the current ebay offer mentioned. Additionally, it would be interesting how the 45 version sounds ... (btw, it has a totally different matrix # MRBF-365) |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Chatfan, we did a lot of research on this track a few
months ago, including obtaining the original 45. Every pressing of this song sounds relatively the same. The 45 sounds like it was mastered from a 78. But all copies originate from optical soundtrack of the film because he played it live on set. The optical track was very noisy. So right off the master, this sounds like a 78 dub but it isn't. Your 2nd mystery version on 78 is intriguing, because all copies we found are same edit. To extend the performance, at 1:26 they spliced the first 35 secs of the song onto the end. I'm very curious to hear the version that is different from that. MM |
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Chatfan MA ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 09 March 2015 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Coming back a bit late but now I had the possibility to
record my two versions. The following three version from the discussions and video presentations sound identical, see --> http://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/f9235 (English DECCA 78rpm version) matrix DDR-14059 http://www.45worlds.com/78rpm/record/536 (London 78rpm version, Made in England) matrix DDR-14059 http://www.45cat.com/record/30005 (London 45rpm version, Made in USA) matrix MRBF-365 MY TWO VERSIONS are labeled and sound differently: Version 1: The 78 with DR.14268 (536-A) has the same text as the label shown first with the YouTube from BigBadBluesMan here DDR.14059 (536-A) but sounds differently!: “THE THIRD MAN” THEME (Anton Karas) From the A. David O. Selznick and Sir Alexander Korda production THE THIRD MAN ANTON KARAS – Zither Solo As performed by him in the Film After about 1:27 the melody is totally different in the middle and the end compared with the three versions mentioned above. Interesting: there is an engraving on the disc outside the label: DR.12468-2 Version 2: The other 78 with DR.14268 (536-A) only indicates “THE THIRD MAN” THEME (Anton Karas) from "The Third Man" ANTON KARAS – Zither Solo This version sounds to me as the three versions in the 45/7rpm forums but with another end (btw the same end as my version 1), and there is another engraving on the disc outside the label: DR.14268-IF Here you can compare my labels and versions: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbbp93gnbcg0nvv/The%20Third%20M an%20Theme%20..%20Anton%20Karas%20- %20Version%201%20and%202.mp3?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mmngkvjp8i2vfb/Version1_ThirdM anTheme-label_LON536-A%2CDR.12468-2.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/tj7abmy9hobiapp/Version2_ThirdM anTheme-label_LON536-A%2CDR.12468-IF.jpg?dl=0 Conclusion: There were three different sounding single versions, the one with matrices 14059 or -365 and those with matrices DR.14268-2 and -IF, issued later than the DR.14059 in the US (what can be seen with the higher matrix #.). Unfortunately I could not find any discography for London label #s and matrices .... Version 1:Version 2:Conclusion: |
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