Never Surrender - Corey Hart

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   CRTP (Ron G) sent me the single version of "Never Surrender" by Corey Hart and I'm hearing a slight glitch at the (1:06) mark that I don't hear on the longer album version.  I believe that Ron's source is Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 23 1984-85 on the Time-Life label.  So, does anybody else have the shorter 45 version and if so, do you hear this glitch at the (1:06) mark?  I'd like to get a copy without the glitch, if possible, or am I just hearing things???

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Paul Haney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 48	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Haney Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Never Surrender - Corey Hart Posted: 10 April 2016 at 10:28am
	CRTP (Ron G) sent me the single version of "Never Surrender" by Corey Hart and I'm hearing a slight glitch at the (1:06) mark that I don't hear on the longer album version. I believe that Ron's source is Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 23 1984-85 on the Time-Life label. So, does anybody else have the shorter 45 version and if so, do you hear this glitch at the (1:06) mark? I'd like to get a copy without the glitch, if possible, or am I just hearing things???

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 111	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2016 at 12:41pm
	Paul, I must have recreated the single version at some point but I only have it as a 320 bitrate mp3.

Santi Paradoa Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33	Post Options Post Reply Quote Santi Paradoa Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2016 at 12:45pm
	That's odd Paul. I have that disc and I do not hear a glitch at that point in the song.
	Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2016 at 6:59pm
	Good ears, Paul! With headphones, I can hear a small dropout in both channels around 1:06. I didn't notice it when listening in speakers, though. I don't have the 45 version on any other CDs, so I can't tell if there's a problem with the 45 master tape, or the mastering for the Time-Life disc.
	There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.

Paul Haney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 48	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Haney Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 April 2016 at 3:24am
	Glad I'm not hearing things! So, does anybody here have one of the other CDs that contains the single version and if so, does it have the glitch? It's one of those things, once I hear it, I can't un-hear it. Edited by Paul Haney

RichM921 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 October 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote RichM921 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 April 2016 at 9:23pm
	I have three copies of the single version: A needle drop of the 45, a copy from the TM Century GoldDisc, and a copy from an unidentified source. I cannot hear any glitch at 1:06. Either my copies don't have them or my hearing is shot (which is entirely possible too!)

Paul Haney Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 48	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Haney Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 April 2016 at 10:08am
	I listened to the actual 45 and don't hear the glitch.

NightAire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote NightAire Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 March 2021 at 7:44am
	The database labels them "45 version" and "LP version." Are they "versions" or are they just "lengths?" To my ears it just sounds like an early fade. Am I missing something?
	Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 March 2021 at 8:52am
	Gene - It's one edit and an early fade. The edit is around 1:41 and deletes 16 beats from the LP version. I'm not sure exactly where the edit is (downbeat? snare?), and can't analyze things right now because I'm at work. Hope that helps for now. Edited by crapfromthepast
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NightAire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote NightAire Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 March 2021 at 10:34am
	Ron, you're right!! (Also, I've been playing just an early fade of the LP version!) :-o On my copy, I took it out starting in the beat at 1:40.5 and ending at 1:49.7... this was after trimming the silence at the end. I based this on a YouTube video that I found but the quality is too poor for me to be confident exactly where the edit point is on the original single. I learn something new every day... :-)
	Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA