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Topic: New Kids On The Block - Hangin’ Tough
Posted: 01 December 2019 at 10:59am

Couldn't find any threads about this song, so I'll start
one with a question that's been in the back of my mind
for years.

Has anyone ever noticed that on both "Greatest Hits"
from the group, there appears to be what sounds like a
very slight skip after the line, "And you know
we're..."? To my ears, it sounds like the line comes out
as, "And you know we're ANGIN' Tough", with the "H"
being missed and also sounding like the word (h)angin'
comes in a half second too early. I noticed that the
version on "Billboard Top Hits 1989" doesn't have this
issue and an import that I have, "More Hangin' Tough",
also doesn't have this issue. It seems to occur at the
1:35 mark in the song.

Just wondering if anyone else has ever noticed this or
if maybe it's just been my imagination all these years.

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Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:28am

It's not your imagination, but I had never listened to it on Greatest Hits until just now. The song actually does not lose the tempo; it's simply that the first part of the vocal on "hangin'" is muted. I have no idea why that would be. I pulled and checked my promo CD single, and it does not have this error at 1:34.

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1. 7" Edited Version (listed & actual 3:50)
2. 7" Album Version (listed & actual 4:16)

I'm not certain why they label track 2 as 7" Album Version, as this is simply the album version, and as far as I know did not appear on any 7" copies in the US.

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Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:51am

One other thing I noticed about the Greatest Hits version at that point is
that there is no sound effect on the beat and the “(h)angin’” vocal. On
the proper 45 version, there is a sound effect at this point (kind of like a
slow record scratch).

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Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:54am

I have the song from Super Hits and it also may
have the same issue.

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Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:56am

Unfortunately, the 45 version can't be recreated from the
LP version.

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Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:57am

The Time-Life disc Sounds Of The Eighties: The Late '80s Take Two does not have the error.

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Posted: 01 December 2019 at 6:27pm

FYI:

Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 20 The Late '80s Take Two (1996) is a differently-EQ'd digital clone of Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1989 (1994). Both lack the error at 1:34.

Sony's NKOTB Super Hits (2001) is a differently-EQ'd digital clone of Sony's NKOTB Greatest Hits (1999) but is too loud and clips a bit. (GH has excellent dynamic range.) Both have the error at 1:34.

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Posted: 02 December 2019 at 6:59pm

Is the "7" Edited Version" on the promo CD the same as the 45
version? My memory tells me the 45 was a different mix from the
album version (instrumentation added).

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Posted: 02 December 2019 at 8:19pm

Yes, you’re right about both. Track 1 on the promo CD is the 45 version,
and it’s remixed compared to the LP version.

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Posted: 05 November 2020 at 7:20am

Something else I noticed about this song yesterday:

The 30th Anniversary edition of the Hangin' Tough album has as one of its bonus tracks a version of "Hangin' Tough" called "Tougher Mix". It's basically an extended version of the 7"Remix/Single Version with a few elements of the Album Version thrown in along with a falsetto vocal that's not on either the Album or Single Version. There's also a few bits of instrumentation added, but it's mostly the same as the Single. This version ALSO has the skip I mentioned in my first post, and aside from being on the 30th Anniversary CD, it's also present on the Japenese Import, More Hangin' Tough that was released in 1990 as well. So apparently this skip didn't originate with the 1999 Greatest Hits disc. The "Tougher Mix" is noticeably faster on the 30th Anniversary disc than on More Hangin' Tough as well.

By the way, to clear up any possible confusion with what I mentioned in my first post, the More Hangin' Tough compilation does have the correct 7" Version of "Hangin' Tough" without the skip, but it also includes the "Tougher Mix" with the skip.

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	Couldn't find any threads about this song, so I'll start one with a question that's been in the back of my mind for years. Has anyone ever noticed that on both "Greatest Hits" from the group, there appears to be what sounds like a very slight skip after the line, "And you know we're..."? To my ears, it sounds like the line comes out as, "And you know we're ANGIN' Tough", with the "H" being missed and also sounding like the word (h)angin' comes in a half second too early. I noticed that the version on "Billboard Top Hits 1989" doesn't have this issue and an import that I have, "More Hangin' Tough", also doesn't have this issue. It seems to occur at the 1:35 mark in the song. Just wondering if anyone else has ever noticed this or if maybe it's just been my imagination all these years.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:28am
	It's not your imagination, but I had never listened to it on Greatest Hits until just now. The song actually does not lose the tempo; it's simply that the first part of the vocal on "hangin'" is muted. I have no idea why that would be. I pulled and checked my promo CD single, and it does not have this error at 1:34. CSK 1667 1. 7" Edited Version (listed & actual 3:50) 2. 7" Album Version (listed & actual 4:16) I'm not certain why they label track 2 as 7" Album Version, as this is simply the album version, and as far as I know did not appear on any 7" copies in the US.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:51am
	One other thing I noticed about the Greatest Hits version at that point is that there is no sound effect on the beat and the “(h)angin’” vocal. On the proper 45 version, there is a sound effect at this point (kind of like a slow record scratch).
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:54am
	I have the song from Super Hits and it also may have the same issue.
	John Gallagher Erie, PA John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 December 2019 at 11:56am
	Unfortunately, the 45 version can't be recreated from the LP version.
	John Gallagher Erie, PA John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth

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	The Time-Life disc Sounds Of The Eighties: The Late '80s Take Two does not have the error.
	Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida

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	FYI: Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 20 The Late '80s Take Two (1996) is a differently-EQ'd digital clone of Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1989 (1994). Both lack the error at 1:34. Sony's NKOTB Super Hits (2001) is a differently-EQ'd digital clone of Sony's NKOTB Greatest Hits (1999) but is too loud and clips a bit. (GH has excellent dynamic range.) Both have the error at 1:34.
	There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.

chendagam Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 August 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote chendagam Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 December 2019 at 6:59pm
	Is the "7" Edited Version" on the promo CD the same as the 45 version? My memory tells me the 45 was a different mix from the album version (instrumentation added).

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 December 2019 at 8:19pm
	Yes, you’re right about both. Track 1 on the promo CD is the 45 version, and it’s remixed compared to the LP version.
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

thecdguy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote thecdguy Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 November 2020 at 7:20am
	Something else I noticed about this song yesterday: The 30th Anniversary edition of the Hangin' Tough album has as one of its bonus tracks a version of "Hangin' Tough" called "Tougher Mix". It's basically an extended version of the 7"Remix/Single Version with a few elements of the Album Version thrown in along with a falsetto vocal that's not on either the Album or Single Version. There's also a few bits of instrumentation added, but it's mostly the same as the Single. This version ALSO has the skip I mentioned in my first post, and aside from being on the 30th Anniversary CD, it's also present on the Japenese Import, More Hangin' Tough that was released in 1990 as well. So apparently this skip didn't originate with the 1999 Greatest Hits disc. The "Tougher Mix" is noticeably faster on the 30th Anniversary disc than on More Hangin' Tough as well. By the way, to clear up any possible confusion with what I mentioned in my first post, the More Hangin' Tough compilation does have the correct 7" Version of "Hangin' Tough" without the skip, but it also includes the "Tougher Mix" with the skip.
	Dan In Philly