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Topic: Third World - Now That We Found Love
Posted: 12 April 2023 at 6:32pm

While not a Top 40 hit, it did reach number 47 in 1979.

Does anyone know if there are different versions on the
different pressings of the 45? While the catalog number
on all the 45's listed on Discogs is 8663, there is one
pressing that is labeled "Edit" with a listed time of
4:00 while there is another pressing with no mix
designation, that has a listed time of 3:55.

I do have a 45 dub that runs 4:00, however, I have the
songs on several CDs with runtimes between 3:55 and 4:00.
Interestingly enough, the version on "The Ultimate
Collection" is labeled as "single version" and runs 3:55
however, it is a different version than the 45 dub I have
running 4:00.

So.....I was wondering if there could possibly be two
different pressings (with different versions) of the 45
with the same catalog number.

Can anyone share any insight?

Thanks.
-Jeff

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Posted: 12 April 2023 at 7:43pm

Interesting catch. I have a dub of the 45 in my archives
and, you're right, it doesn't match what I have from the
Millennium Collection CD. I'm wondering if some of the 3:55
versions are just the LP version faded to 3:55 or so.

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Erie, PA
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Posted: 26 April 2023 at 11:21pm

Well,
I knew I had song on "The Island Story" (U.S. edition) so
I pulled the disc and ripped it. Listed time is (3:57) so
I thought *maybe* it's the U.S. single. Actual time is
(3:53)
BUT, To my ears, it's the LP version with a fade-in
instead of a cold start like the LP and 45 version, and
it just fades early with no edits.

The real 45 does not fade-in and has 4-5 edits of the LP
version to make it the single. It is the same mix. So I
just re-created the 45 edits and I got a perfect match.

I noticed the above described version on my "Island
Story" CD (with fade-in) has made it quite a few Youtube
videos, so I'm
thinking the real U.S. 45 edit is not on CD yet and not
on Youtube.....yet.

MM

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Posted: 27 April 2023 at 5:08am

I have a version (the source I can't recall) that starts cold like the LP and runs
about 3:57. I just listened to it again and compared with the LP. It simply fades
early, so it's NOT the 45, since you mention it has edits. MM, would be happy
to hear your edit!

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Posted: 27 April 2023 at 9:11am

My stock copy fades in and runs 3:52.1. Run-out wax says, IS 8663-WAA-8162 V1-S-JW1, STERLING. Looks a lot like a
Capitol pressing with the serrated edge at the label. I didn't think that Island was still being manufactured by
Capitol in 1979. I also have a promo (Stereo/Mono), but I haven't put that on my hard-drive because at the time I
didn't think there was any difference. In 1985-89 we ordered copies from the U.K. (Island 216) because domestic copies
had been discontinued. -Bill.

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Posted: 29 April 2023 at 4:25pm

I was curious so I checked out 45cat.com to see what is there.
Interestingly, referring back to Fetta's original post I found 2 different
variations of the U.S. single:

1) Title says "Now That We Found Love" with a listed time of (3:55)
Label Matrix # (WAA8162V1)S

2) Title says "Now That We Found Love (Edit)" with listed time (4:00)
Label Matrix # (WAA8162V1)S RE-1

The 45 dub I used for reference matches the (3:55) listed time.

So there are definitely (at least) 2 pressings for this single. With Bill's info
above, are we going for 3 U.S. pressings?

MM

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Fetta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fetta Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Third World - Now That We Found Love Posted: 12 April 2023 at 6:32pm
	While not a Top 40 hit, it did reach number 47 in 1979. Does anyone know if there are different versions on the different pressings of the 45? While the catalog number on all the 45's listed on Discogs is 8663, there is one pressing that is labeled "Edit" with a listed time of 4:00 while there is another pressing with no mix designation, that has a listed time of 3:55. I do have a 45 dub that runs 4:00, however, I have the songs on several CDs with runtimes between 3:55 and 4:00. Interestingly enough, the version on "The Ultimate Collection" is labeled as "single version" and runs 3:55 however, it is a different version than the 45 dub I have running 4:00. So.....I was wondering if there could possibly be two different pressings (with different versions) of the 45 with the same catalog number. Can anyone share any insight? Thanks. -Jeff

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 60	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 April 2023 at 7:43pm
	Interesting catch. I have a dub of the 45 in my archives and, you're right, it doesn't match what I have from the Millennium Collection CD. I'm wondering if some of the 3:55 versions are just the LP version faded to 3:55 or so.
	John Gallagher Erie, PA John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth

MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2023 at 11:21pm
	Well, I knew I had song on "The Island Story" (U.S. edition) so I pulled the disc and ripped it. Listed time is (3:57) so I thought maybe it's the U.S. single. Actual time is (3:53) BUT, To my ears, it's the LP version with a fade-in instead of a cold start like the LP and 45 version, and it just fades early with no edits. The real 45 does not fade-in and has 4-5 edits of the LP version to make it the single. It is the same mix. So I just re-created the 45 edits and I got a perfect match. I noticed the above described version on my "Island Story" CD (with fade-in) has made it quite a few Youtube videos, so I'm thinking the real U.S. 45 edit is not on CD yet and not on Youtube.....yet. MM Edited by MMathews

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 April 2023 at 5:08am
	I have a version (the source I can't recall) that starts cold like the LP and runs about 3:57. I just listened to it again and compared with the LP. It simply fades early, so it's NOT the 45, since you mention it has edits. MM, would be happy to hear your edit! Edited by davidclark
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	My stock copy fades in and runs 3:52.1. Run-out wax says, IS 8663-WAA-8162 V1-S-JW1, STERLING. Looks a lot like a Capitol pressing with the serrated edge at the label. I didn't think that Island was still being manufactured by Capitol in 1979. I also have a promo (Stereo/Mono), but I haven't put that on my hard-drive because at the time I didn't think there was any difference. In 1985-89 we ordered copies from the U.K. (Island 216) because domestic copies had been discontinued. -Bill.

MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 April 2023 at 4:25pm
	I was curious so I checked out 45cat.com to see what is there. Interestingly, referring back to Fetta's original post I found 2 different variations of the U.S. single: 1) Title says "Now That We Found Love" with a listed time of (3:55) Label Matrix # (WAA8162V1)S 2) Title says "Now That We Found Love (Edit)" with listed time (4:00) Label Matrix # (WAA8162V1)S RE-1 The 45 dub I used for reference matches the (3:55) listed time. So there are definitely (at least) 2 pressings for this single. With Bill's info above, are we going for 3 U.S. pressings? MM