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    Posted: 15 October 2005 at 6:25am
I noticed that in the 9th ed. "Paloma Blanca" on Varese Sarabande was listed as "45 version" but in the database, that distinction has been removed. Did you learn something to indicate this is NOT the 45 version? It seems to have the edited intro, so I don't know why it wouldn't be.

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The LP states a time of (3:49) but I discovered that information is not correct and the 45 and LP version are identical so I removed the comment 45 version.
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I want to bring this song back to people's attention. The intro on the CD and LP (and apparently 45) is 43 seconds long. But I seem to remember hearing a version that cut the intro in half (which wouldn't be surprising, since in 1976, a 43-second intro for an AM radio type hit was really long!) So does anyone know if the dj singles were edited, or if there exists a 2nd version of the 45 that has the shorter intro? Can anyone check their collections?

It could be that the Boston radio stations all edited it down exactly the same exact way, and that that was all I knew. But I know when I got the song on CD the first time, I expected the intro to be a certain way, and it surprised me to hear it twice as long.
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Gordon: You may be onto something.

Check out the label for this 45. The time shown is 2:37. Not sure if it's a re-recording or the history of them on this label.

Looks like a Canadian issue. "Little Green Bag" is on the flip.
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A Canadian release that says "Made in the USA"!
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I have two stock and four promo copies (hey, the folks at the local WEA office said "help yourself to whatever 45s you want," and boy, did I.) All copies list the time as 3:27. The promos all have the full :43 intro on both the stereo and mono sides. Matrix numbers on all four promos are identical; stereo TAA-6856-S-1B and mono TAA-6856-1A.

The stocks also have the :43 intro. Machine-stamped matrix # is TAA (scratched out numbers) S-1C , followed by hand-etched 6856.

The Stardust 45 reissues I've bought over the years were usually the original versions, though not always of the best sound quality. Ditto for some of the earlier Underground yellow label reissues. However, the yellow-label Underground 45s licensed from Capitol were the real deal. I'd bought the T-Bones' stereo "No Matter What Shape" (Underground 1050) years ago, but the B-side turned out to be the treasure. "Half Past Midnight" by The Staccatos (the label credits the group's later name, The Five Man Electrical Band) was in crisp, true stereo, and even ran a bit longer than the original Canadian Capitol / US Tower 45s.
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Quite possible, the label scan shown, instead of 2:37, could really be 3:27...
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Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:


It could be that the Boston radio stations all edited it down exactly the same exact way, and that that was all I knew. But I know when I got the song on CD the first time, I expected the intro to be a certain way, and it surprised me to hear it twice as long.


WRKO was notorious for doing custom edits of songs, that may be what you remember. Wasn't there some edict from their national PD about song length? I rarely listened to WVBF so I don't know what they played.
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I never listened to RKO. It was always VBF and BZ-FM and PRO-FM from Providence, RI.
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Sorry to be hauling this one back to the front, but I have some new info on this song.

I just picked up a DISKY series, one of which is titled "Best of 1974-1975" and my first discovery in it is a 3:47 version of this song. The only differences are (1)it's got a :20 second longer intro than the 45 and my vinyl LP and (2) it's about 1.4% faster than the 45. When the edit is made and the speed is corrected, the 45 version is indeed 3:27, as is my vinyl LP version. Perhaps that is the USA LP/45 version, while the 3:47 version is the UK version. Don't know. Maybe someone can shed some light on that. I didn't know that a longer version even existed till I picked up this Disky series, which I hope will provide me with several more unknown nuggets.

Since it is an import, it'll probably never appear in the DB, but the info should probably be changed to "45 & LP edit" or something. Incidentally, to create the 45 edit, simply take out from :39.185 to 1:02.767 and then slow it down.

Now...how to we create that DJ edit??
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