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    Posted: September 27 2023 at 8:22PM
I feel like this should be somewhere on the board, but I couldn't find it.

The 45 is mono and includes double-tracked vocals throughout the song. It's readily available on lots of CDs; I like Rhino's Billboard Top Rock & Roll Hits Of 1969 (both 1989 and 1993 releases).

There's a stereo version that includes single-tracked vocals throughout the song. It's also readily available on lots of CDs; I like Rhino's British Invasion Vol. 9 (1991).

The database shows the stereo version as "underdub", which I assume refers to the single-tracked vocals.

Was this stereo version released in any form in 1969? I can't tell if it was a "stereo LP version" from back then, or if it was just an artifact that appeared in the CD era.
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Wasn't this an imported single from the other side of the pond?

I haven't noticed the double vs single tracked vocals, but that's just me. Perhaps the UK releases were single-tracked vocals?

I'm going to look for that one on some of those imports I have.
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To Ron:

I'm pretty sure the stereo version didn't show up in the
USA 'til much later. I'm actually reasonably certain that
it wasn't out in the UK when it was a hit, either.

What I am sure about is the first album that I owned that
contained it was the 1975 'Best Of The British Invasion'
on Pye Records thru a USA distribution deal with NY's ATV
Records.

This album also contained (in my estimation) the USA
stereo debut of Sandie Shaw's hits and a curiously both
true-stereo AND re-channeled "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose
It's Flavor".

If anyone can let me know of any earlier stereo USA
releases of these tracks please let me know!

I would also like to be made aware of any known earlier
import stereo releases of these tracks.

Thanks!

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One of the most noticeable liner note errors is in the booklet for Dick Bartley's Collector's
Essentials: On The Radio Vol. 4 which reads:

"We are proud to present the original single version in stereo; there are no noticeable differences
from the mono release."
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

Was this stereo version released in any form in 1969? I can't tell if it was a "stereo LP version" from back then, or if it was just an artifact that appeared in the CD era.


Good question. Not sure. It's on their best of from 2004 in stereo and mono. The From The Foundations Expanded Edition has the mono. I would venture that its not the LP version if you cant find it on a 69 stereo album anywhere, just my 2 cents.

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According to Both Sides Now website, it is shown as "e" on the 1969 Uni LP.
Andrew, what do you mean by ...both true-stereo AND re-channeled "Does
Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor"?

Is this the LP to which you refer:

https://www.discogs.com/release/4988083-Various-Best-Of-The-
British-Invasion

So Sandie Shaw's hits on her Reprise LP "Sandie Shaw" were not true stereo? I
would love to know what other true stereo songs are on that Pye LP.

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Originally posted by davidclark davidclark wrote:

Andrew, what do you mean by ...both
true-stereo AND re-channeled "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose
It's Flavor"?

Well, it is the true stereo version, but they ran it
through the re-channelling process anyway (you know that
old 'one side tin, the other side mud' that was prevalent
in the sixties...)

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Originally posted by davidclark davidclark wrote:



So Sandie Shaw's hits on her Reprise LP "Sandie Shaw"
were not true stereo?

David, I am really not sure!

All I remember is I never found a copy of the US stereo
album in the early-to-mid Seventies, and my older
"collector friends" suggested that I try an import album
if I wanted to see if they were stereo - but I was
"afraid" to take a chance on a Goldmine listing...

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I bought a Foundations 4CD newly released box set because it claimed to have
the album "From the Foundations" in stereo (that's the album with "Baby Now
That I've Found You". When I bought and listened to it, I was disappointed. I'm
not sure that it is E-stereo. But whatever it was, it didn't have much stereo
separation.
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Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

I bought a Foundations
4CD newly released box set because it
claimed to have
the album "From the Foundations" in stereo
(that's the album with "Baby Now
That I've Found You". When I bought and
listened to it, I was disappointed. I'm
not sure that it is E-stereo. But whatever
it was, it didn't have much stereo
separation.


Probably just used the original lp masters
so whatever was stereo on the lp would be
replicated, not upgraded.
Live in stereo.
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