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    Posted: August 09 2008 at 10:29AM
The actual commercial 45 run time of Irene Cara's "Flashdance... What a Feeling" is 3:56. (Run time information courtesy of abagon. The stated time on the record label is 3:55.) The only reason I post this info is because the song's CD times in the database range from 3:49-3:57.
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The 12" version of this contains an extra verse that's not on any other source (as far as I know).
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i've been reviewing the year 1983 over the last few months and the song "flashdance....what a feeling" by irene cara runs 3:56 while all the db entries run between 3:49 and 3:54, a good 0:07 to 0:02 SHORTER than the actual 45's run time......there was one cd listed below

(S) (3:57) Columbia/Legacy 86827 Paramount Pictures'90th Anniversary Memorable Songs   

that seems to have the proper, longer run time, with no notes in the db, so i bought it...it turns out the version on this cd is a re-recording and NOT the original version.....this should be noted in the db....
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Some useless trivia... as often happens, the variety of lengths is partly due to speed variations, and partly due to differences in when the fadeout ends.

Examples:
• Irene Cara What a Feelin' CD = correct speed (assuming synth A4=440 Hz)
Flashdance soundtrack CD = 0.38% fast
• US 45 = 0.63% fast

The last lyrics heard in the song are:

* (Call, call, call, call)
(What a feelin') I can have it all
(Bein's believin') Bein's believiiiiin'-oh!
(Take your passion)
(Make it happen) ** Make it happen
(What a feelin') What a feeeeelin' ***
(Bein's believin') ****
Happen! *****


* = soundtrack CD version begins fade here
** = 45 and Irene Cara LP/CD version begins fade here
*** = soundtrack CD version ends fade here
**** = Irene Cara LP/CD version ends fade here
***** = 45 ends fade here

The "Happen!" which only is at the very end of the 45 appears to be a non sequitur, as if Cara were responding to the chorus singing "Make it happen" instead of "Bein's believin'". I wouldn't be surprised if the reason it doesn't appear anywhere else is because it wasn't supposed to be there in the first place.

For no apparent reason, the song's appearance on the 1997 Irene Cara CD reissue used the version title "Radio Edit" even though it's not unique in any way.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote elcoleccionista Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2025 at 5:45AM
I only now realized that the version included in the
soundtrack known as the LP/45 version seems to be an edit
of what used to be a longer version, probably including
the second part of the verse featured on the extended
version.

You can clearly notice a not so perfect edit point at
0:53 which cuts the verse short.

Has anybody else noticed this? It was strange to not see
it discussed here on the board.

Extended version structure:

[Intro]
First, when there's nothing, but a slow glowing dream
That your fear seems to hide deep inside your mind
All alone, I have cried, silent tears full of pride
In a world made of steel, made of stone, made of stone

[Verse 1]
If I only could take all the love that you give
And escape to a world crystal clear
Well, I hear the music, close my eyes, feel the rhythm
Wrap around, take a hold of my heart

Album/45 version:

[Intro]
First, when there's nothing, but a slow glowing dream
That your fear seems to hide deep inside your mind
All alone, I have cried, silent tears full of pride
In a world made of steel, made of stone, made of stone

[Verse 1]
Well, I hear the music, close my eyes, feel the rhythm
Wrap around, take a hold of my heart

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I'm afraid to listen. Once I do, I'm sure I'll never be able to un-hear it!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote prisdeej Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 11 2025 at 12:54PM
Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

I'm afraid to listen. Once I do, I'm sure I'll never be able to un-hear it!


You warned us, pal! Ugh. :(
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Ugh. Heard it and now can't unhear it.

The edit is on all the 3:56-ish versions that I have.

You can't re-edit it down from the 7:18-ish versions because the mix is slightly different and there are some ad libs over the instrumental part that you'd want to use.

The version on Hear The Light Vol. 1 (1984) seems to be the longest version, with a fade that runs from about 3:49 to about 3:54.

The version on the original pressings of the Flashdance soundtrack (copyright 1983) fades significantly earlier, with a fade from about 3:32 to 3:52.

The version on Pure Disco 2 (1997) fades from about 3:46 to about 3:53.

My go-to version is Hear The Light Vol. 1 (1984).
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I've always known about that edit, but the fact that I've
heard that song literally THOUSANDS of times over the
years, I guess I just got used to it.
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I have "Hear the light" :) Thanks for all the info MJB50 and Ron

Even in my full on Metal Days I was an Irene fan. May she RIP
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2025 at 4:11AM
Many years ago, I got a call from Irene Cara's manager.
She said that we had an incorrect birth year listed for
Irene in our Top Pop Singles book. I told her that the
sources we had (including 1980s promotional material from
Irene's own promo team) indicated that 1959 was correct.
A few days later I got a call from Irene herself,
DEMANDING that we change the date. I told her that I
appreciated the call, and if she could send me some
documentation, I would gladly change it. She then
literally started screaming at me, saying some choice
words, and then furiously hung up the phone. We never got
any documentation and never heard another word from her
again. Even her Wikipedia page has a note about the
disputed birthdate. Even after that experience, I still
enjoy her music and remain a fan of her in general.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Ireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2025 at 3:34PM
Wow, thanks for sharing that fascinating personal anecdote with us, Paul! All I can say is that you're a better man than I am for remaining gracious and complimentary of Irene Cara after receiving such unnecessary rude and belligerent treatment from her. Yet, from another standpoint, how cool is it to know that many of the musicians who appear in Joel Whitburn's reference books are probably fans of your work!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2025 at 4:37AM
I had the privilege of talking directly to a few artists
over the years. Meco Monardo, Narvel Felts and Joe
Dowell, all gave me some great bio info. Kenny Loggins
called to order a book for his son. Reps for Elton John,
Michael Jackson, Casey Kasem and Dick Clark would
regularly call to order. Sir Tim Rice would call himself
to order just about every book. I got to be friends with
FOJ (friends of Joel) such as Duane Eddy and Mike Curb.
It was a particular thrill for me to correspond with Paul
Grein and Fred Bronson as I was a huge Chart Beat fan.

All in all, Irene was the only one that ever had an issue
with us. But as I said, I'm still a fan.
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