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Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild - stereo |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I'm not sure what I'm hearing, so I'm hoping Ron will be able to find time at some point to do one of his excellent reviews and identify what (if anything) is going on.
On a number of the stereo copies I have of "Born To Be Wild," the first drum beat has significant reverb in the right channel only. Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1968, Rhino Hard Rockin Hits, Time Life Guitar Rock, Guitar Rock Monsters. Then I have some other copies that still seem to be stereo but have the downbeat centered in the stereo image. These are missing the overdubs at 3:15, like the Bill Inglot remaster that plays out to a cold end. The bass guitar, in comparison, is WAY up in this mix. Time Life Classic Rock, Starland Music Presents 40 Summer Fun Hits. Are these just early fades of the Inglot CORRECTION: Hoffman mix? Edited by NightAire |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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I was kinda shocked when I heard the cold ending for the first time. I can see why someone at MCA thought that the world would appreciate hearing the song out to the full ending.
What I know so far: the version that extends to the cold ending was a remix by Steve Hoffman, done specifically for MCA's Vintage Music Vol. 9 in 1986. It's a super-clean mix, but kinda lifeless, and missing a few components that were in the hit mix. I'll have to do some comparisons, but I suspect that many versions on CD may just be early fades of the 1986 remix. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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Mono 45 version (3:03)
Get Real Gone Music's 2-CD The ABC/Dunhill Singles Collection (2015), mastered by our own Aaron K. Then don't even bother looking for the song in stereo, because the stereo mix can't compete with the mono 45 for raw-power awesomeness. (My opinion, of course.) Stereo LP version (about 3:28) I think the first appearance on CD of the stereo LP version was MCA's 1985 reissue of Steppenwolf's 16 Greatest Hits (1973). It may not be the lowest-generation source tapes, but on the plus side, I don't hear any attempt to tame the tape hiss at the fade. The same analog transfer is used on TM Century track no 00001599, which shortens the fade slightly and adds noise reduction (avoid). There was another analog transfer on MCA's multi-artist Classic Rock Vol. 1 (1988). MCA released a Vol. 2 in 1988 and a Vol. 3 in 1989. I personally like the sound on these three discs. To my ears, it sounds like MCA dug up decent source tapes and did a nice, clean job getting them into the digital world with no extra noise reduction, great dynamic range, and a decent EQ. For "Born To Be Wild", the EQ is very similar to 16 Greatest Hits, and the fade fades out a bit more slowly. The same analog transfer is used on:
Steve Hoffman remixed "Born To Be Wild" from the multi-tracks for the MCA compilation Vintage Music Vol. 9 (1986). In the remix, the opening two-drum hit is centered in the soundstage, not panned to the right as in the LP mix. The remix is missing the high-pitched single-note guitar line that starts around 3:09 in the LP mix. Most interesting (to my ears), the remix runs out to the full length of the take to a cold ending; it's more than a little jarring if you're used to hearing the song fade out. The full take on Vintage Music Vol. 9 runs 3:37. The following CDs use the same analog transfer as Vintage Music Vol. 9:
For the mono 45 version, you'll need Real Gone Music's 2-CD The ABC/Dunhill Singles Collection (2015). It's a stellar-sounding package. For the stereo LP version, go with MCA's multi-artist Classic Rock Vol. 1 (1988). (I prefer the EQ over the Rhino disc, and the vocals seem to be closer to dead-center in the soundstage than the Rhino.) For the non-hit 1986 stereo remix, go with MCA's multi-artist Vintage Music Vol. 9 (1986). Edited by crapfromthepast |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Ron, you are ON IT tonight. Thank you so much for all of this! (Tell your friends and family thank you for letting us have you tonight for all this research.) ;-)
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kaqueno ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 November 2021 Location: Argentina Status: Online Points: 1 |
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I didn't know that Aaron is the mastering engineer for this album, which is great news and tells me that there are very qualified members on the forum!!! excellent description ron!!!! Thank you |
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