j geils band "give it to me"

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   the database states that some cd versions run 6:28 and some run 3:07 while the 45's face always stated 3:07.....my 45 states the run time as 6:31 but actually runs 6:28..........it this just a type or do i have a rare 45??

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: j geils band "give it to me" Posted: 29 December 2005 at 7:57pm
	the database states that some cd versions run 6:28 and some run 3:07 while the 45's face always stated 3:07.....my 45 states the run time as 6:31 but actually runs 6:28..........it this just a type or do i have a rare 45?? Edited by edtop40
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Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 December 2005 at 9:14pm
	I'm guessing you probably don't have a rare 45, Ed. More likely, it's just the first vinyl 45 copy with a 6:31 print time that has come to Pat's attention. Edited by Todd Ireland

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2007 at 12:45am
	I just timed both my commercial 45 issues for this, which are both stereo. My listed (3:07) 45 actually comes in just a second longer, at (3:08), but my listed (6:31) commercial 45 has an actual time of (6:26), which is :05 different than Ed's earlier-submitted timing. My (6:26) timing happens to be closer to the 5 "long version" database CD appearances. FYI, my long 45's deadwax is "ST-A-26085-1".

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2007 at 8:42am
	Interesting... and it begs the question as to why a record label would go through the trouble of issuing two different pressings of a song that differ in length by only a handful of seconds? I can't recall other examples off the top of my head, but I know the good folks on this message board have uncovered several other Top 40 hits where multiple 45 pressings have differed only by a mere few seconds in length. Edited by Todd Ireland

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2007 at 11:24am
	It's possible that 2 versions, seemingly only 5 seconds apart, are actually 2 completely different edits that time out about the same. Or maybe they have different mixes but fade out just a few seconds apart. It would be interesting, as Todd Ireland points out, to know if there are any 2 versions that truly differ by one simply fading a few seconds earlier/later than the other. (And why would a label even bother?) I know sometimes a 45 will be just a few seconds shorter than the LP -- but 2 variations on 45s?? That would be odd.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2007 at 11:02pm
	Actually, Gordon, I now remember Jim uncovering one such example very recently. There are two different commercial 45 pressings of Bloodstone's "Natural High" and their respective run times are 3:59 and 4:04... just a five second difference!

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 31 May 2007 at 10:31am
	Given that different plants pressed the same records in different parts of the US, perhaps the recording engineer who was making the masters got anxious and faded it a tad early to speed up the process. Or, since it is kind of a long fade out, maybe the engineer thought it was done when it really wasn't. Only a guess...