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Posted: 05 September 2024 at 4:15pm

Does anyone know of a source for any or all of the various
"city" versions of this song?

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Posted: 05 September 2024 at 5:04pm

Aaron, while you're in there, the "4:49" 45 runs 4:51, as per a particular rip on YouTube in which you can see it's playing on a pitch-locked Audio Technica deck.

What are the thresholds for something being designated as "45 length"?

As I mentioned, even after accounting for the very slight speed differences, the fade on this 45 still goes to silence 4 seconds before the CD album mastering. I don't know which, if any, CDs got the fade length exactly the same as the 45.

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Posted: 05 September 2024 at 7:16pm

I seem to remember a rule Pat would follow, but I don't recall the exact number of seconds. I believe that if the length difference is only 3 or 4 seconds (like in this case), there's no designation in the database.

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Posted: 06 September 2024 at 4:35am

aaronk wrote:

I seem to remember a rule Pat would follow,
but I don't recall the exact number of seconds.

IIRC, it was dubbed " the 3 second rule."

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Posted: 08 September 2024 at 2:25pm

Just to split hairs to the atomic level, after listening
to every CD I have that contains this song, plus the
version from their "Knee Deep in the Hoopla" album, and
then listening to every US 45 I could find on YouTube,
here's what I've found:

-The 45 version has the opening sound (whatever it is)
and on the fadeout has 8 full repeats of "We built, we
built this city," then starts a 9th repeat with "We
built--" and then that's cut off and it's the end of the
song. All CD versions that I have with the opening
"breath" match that 45 fadeout exactly.

-The LP version has no opening sound anomaly, as Ron
said, and on the fadeout also has 8 full repeats of "We
built, we built this city," but a little extra on the 9th
repeat: it gets as far as "We built, we built this--"
before it cuts off. This is true on every version I own
that does NOT have the opening breath (except for
Reader's Digest "Celebration: Today's Great Stars, Great
Songs," and it's possible they might have just omitted
that sound in the mastering).

So, the LP version has 8 3/4 repeats of "We built, we
built this city" on the fadeout, and the 45 only has 8
1/4 repeats, plus that opening sound.

Edited by Brian W.