O/T: The GAP Band - Party Train

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   Discogs is confusing me on what the "LP Version" of this song really was:

This release says it was 6:10.

This CD release lists a time of 5:45.

Ron's library lists the LP version as 5:13.
There's a TMC MBD Series "Mobile Beat Best Of Dance 6" file that runs 5:20.
The GAP Band Ultimate Collection has a 4:41 length.
The Best Of The GAP Band / Millennium Collection has a 5:42 - 5:49 length.
The 12" versions run 5:55, a "Special Dance Mix" which runs 6:10, or "The Special Party Train Dance Mix" which runs 7:47.

Of course the 7" was significantly shorter, running 3:59 for both "Party Train" and "Edited Version Of Special Dance Mix."

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I'm wondering:

1)  Which version / length was on the original LP version?
2)  Did the version on the LP change over time?
3)  If the other lengths exist, where did they originate?
4)  How many of these have made it to CD?

(This has come up because I have a listener who says the version he "always" heard was the 5:49 / Millennium version, & that's how I fell down this rabbit hole.)

THANKS!!!

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NightAire Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote NightAire Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: O/T: The GAP Band - Party Train Posted: 15 hours 51 minutes ago at 8:19am
	Discogs is confusing me on what the "LP Version" of this song really was: This release says it was 6:10. This CD release lists a time of 5:45. Ron's library lists the LP version as 5:13. There's a TMC MBD Series "Mobile Beat Best Of Dance 6" file that runs 5:20. The GAP Band Ultimate Collection has a 4:41 length. The Best Of The GAP Band / Millennium Collection has a 5:42 - 5:49 length. The 12" versions run 5:55, a "Special Dance Mix" which runs 6:10, or "The Special Party Train Dance Mix" which runs 7:47. Of course the 7" was significantly shorter, running 3:59 for both "Party Train" and "Edited Version Of Special Dance Mix." -- I'm wondering: 1) Which version / length was on the original LP version? 2) Did the version on the LP change over time? 3) If the other lengths exist, where did they originate? 4) How many of these have made it to CD? (This has come up because I have a listener who says the version he "always" heard was the 5:49 / Millennium version, & that's how I fell down this rabbit hole.) THANKS!!!
	Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA

crocodile Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 22 May 2025 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote crocodile Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 6 hours 13 minutes ago at 5:57pm
	It looks like all of the initial 1983 LP and cassette versions of Gap Band V - Jammin' contained the 6:10 version which while containing no mix or version name, was listed on 12" singles as the "Special Dance Mix", though sometimes shown as "LP Version". This 6:10 version is the outlier, it contains an acoustic guitar overdub not present in the other versions, which all sound very similar. The longer 7:30 version doesn't really differ from the 5:45 version - the beginning is the same and just extends the song a bit longer without doing anything of note. The first reissue was from PTG records in 2009 which contained both the 5:45 version and the 7:30 12" Special Dance Mix, both (re)mixed by Jim Stader. The second reissue was from Big Break Records in 2014 and had the 5:47 version, the 6:11 12" Special Dance Mix and a 4:03 Single Version, all mixed by Jim Stader. This is where it gets odd. One of the original US 12"s released listed a "Special Party Train Dance Mix" running 7:47 and remixed by Michael Evans, but I can't find this version on YouTube or any release beyond the original 12" and a vinyl only 1986 release called The 12" Collection (NOT the 12" Collection and More release from 1999 which has the 7:30 version from Jim Stader), and the time difference would suggest it isn't just a mis-timed 7:30 Special Dance Mix, though without hearing it it's hard to say for certain. The 7:30 mix is relatively easy to find on CD and YouTube. All of the versions I see on various artist compilations are typically the 5:45/5:47 version or the 7:30 version. The 6:10 version's only CD release seems to be the 2014 Big Break Records reissue of the album. All versions shorter than 5:45 are similar edits of various sorts. Gold has a 3:48 edit. Ultimate Collection as you noted is 4:41, and although it is listed as a single version, seems a bit long for typical radio airplay. Clear as mud, but at least most of the versions sound basically the same outside of the 6:10 original album version and a 3:58 edit of the Special Dance Mix. Edited by crocodile - 6 hours 7 minutes ago at 6:03pm