IFPI copy-controlled CD

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   I encountered my first instance of this process today. So naturally, I looked around here to see if anyone has had issues with this before.

I couldn't find any direct references to IFPI as a copy-control, but it has been referenced in catalog or matrix numbers in a few threads.

I noted that my old USB CD reader did just fine with this disc from 2004 and advertised copy-control, though it did take a bit of extra time to rip.

Currently, I am sampling through and haven't discovered any errors or issues using Windows media player.

I discovered an old discussion on this on DBpoweramp's site from 2014. It seems this was a hit and miss issue that depended on the player, or rom reading the disc.

The disc that has this "Feature" is a UK Time-Life issue by Time Warner Direct Holdings. Did they have any discs made here in the USA made this way? Also,

has anyone encountered a disc that wouldn't perform normally because of the process added? In the DBpoweramp discussion, they mentioned a Peter Gabriel

disc that seemed to be rather tough to crack. 

I'm guessing that this process was abandoned at some point, as this is the first disc I've ever seen with it.

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AdvprosD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote AdvprosD Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: IFPI copy-controlled CD Posted: 09 May 2022 at 6:03pm
	I encountered my first instance of this process today. So naturally, I looked around here to see if anyone has had issues with this before. I couldn't find any direct references to IFPI as a copy-control, but it has been referenced in catalog or matrix numbers in a few threads. I noted that my old USB CD reader did just fine with this disc from 2004 and advertised copy-control, though it did take a bit of extra time to rip. Currently, I am sampling through and haven't discovered any errors or issues using Windows media player. I discovered an old discussion on this on DBpoweramp's site from 2014. It seems this was a hit and miss issue that depended on the player, or rom reading the disc. The disc that has this "Feature" is a UK Time-Life issue by Time Warner Direct Holdings. Did they have any discs made here in the USA made this way? Also, has anyone encountered a disc that wouldn't perform normally because of the process added? In the DBpoweramp discussion, they mentioned a Peter Gabriel disc that seemed to be rather tough to crack. I'm guessing that this process was abandoned at some point, as this is the first disc I've ever seen with it.
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thecdguy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote thecdguy Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2022 at 9:29am
	I know around 2004-05, I had a few GH comps that had copy control, "The Best Of Breathe" and "The Essential Dion". I never tried to rip the Dion CD, but as I recall, I had a problem with the Breathe CD in my computer and had to use a CD Recorder and from that newly-made CD-R I was able to rip it on my PC. I also remember having problems with a Silver Convention GH CD at the time, but I'm not sure it had Copy Control. I had to do the same thing with it that I did with the Breathe CD.
	Dan In Philly

LunarLaugh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote LunarLaugh Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2022 at 9:36pm
	Dave Matthews Band's "Stand Up" album was initially released as a copy-protected CD here in the USA. I am not certain if a non-copy-protected release ever appeared later in this country or not. But whenever you attempted to rip the audio to a computer, the songs would rip them with the file bits out of sequence. It came out sounding like someone was holding the fast forward button down on the CD player. Very irritating and, in some cases, Copy Protection technology meant compromised audio quality or actually having the consumer's computer winding up with malicious software installed.
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AdvprosD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 June 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote AdvprosD Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2022 at 10:37pm
	I did a little more looking online and discovered that the malicious software is what makes the rip sound bad. The audio files are probably not written with it. It appears to have no other effect on the PC except to garble the CDA audio tracks of that particular disc you are trying to rip. My guess would be that this was developed while Windows XP and the Mac OS versions allowed it. Windows 10 appears to ignore the copy-protect included on the disc, as I didn't notice any abnormalities during playback of the files. Perhaps someone using Linux would also be able to ignore it.
	<Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo!