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Many of the Atlantic/Atco single mixes from the time
that singles were still mono but albums were already
being released only in stereo (late 1960s and early
1970s) have never appeared on CD. Even most
Atlantic/Atco 'Oldies Series' reissue 45s from this
period are stereo, including in addition to "Patches",
Aretha Franklin's "Think" and Lulu's "Oh Me Oh My".
Almost all their reissue 45s from all other time
periods are the 45 mixes. It was long speculated that
the Atlantic/Atco mono LP masters had survived but the
single masters had not, and that therefore no mono
tapes existed for songs not issued on a mono LP. Steve
Hoffman, however, has long claimed that these mono
masters do still exist, people just haven't been
looking for them in the right place. Someone did
apparently look in the right place for the Aretha
singles release a few years back.

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Mark M discovered that the 2:59 version (originally listed above as non-hit stereo remix) is actually the UK 45 version. I'll paraphrase an email from Mark:

A collector friends of Mark's in Norway asked Mark for the UK stereo 45 mix of "Patches", because the UK stock 45 was stereo, not mono as in the US. The collector sent Mark a dub of his UK 45, and it turned out to match the odd 2:59 version from Muscle Shoals CD exactly. Same fade points and everything.

So we can rule out a modern-day remix, and can safely identify the 2:59 versions as the UK 45 version, which was stereo, and which did indeed exist when the song was a hit in 1970.

Thanks to all who contributed info to this thread. We certainly can't figure out all this stuff in isolation!
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Originally posted by davidclark davidclark wrote:


It would be interesting to hear the stereo promo side of
the 45, was it the LP
version, or another mix?


I don't believe the promo was in stereo, mine has
"Patches" in mono on both sides, which agrees with what
I see on Discogs.
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Interestingly,
45cat.com shows a second promo labeled "stereo" here:

https://www.45cat.com/record/452748us

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