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Posted: 24 April 2006 at 6:16pm

i little off the database for a moment

does anyone know which cd, if any, contains the 45 version of "back in the saddle" by aerosmith.......the greatest hits cd has a version which is slightly different than the 45 version.......the first vocals on the 45 is at the 0:14 mark while the first vocals on the greatest hits cd is 0:38.......the 45 states the run time as 4:36 and i see there are a few other cd's which contain the song.........i'm hoping there is a aerosmith freak, like i'm a top 40 freak, that maybe could shed some light on this one........thx....edtop40

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Posted: 14 November 2007 at 3:59pm

Ed, although not in the database, this song did peak at #38 Billboard in 5/77. I currently only own a promo 45 for this song. Both the mono and stereo sides for it have both a listed & actual time of (3:37). My new Whitburn Pop Annual states a running time of (4:36), however. Could someone owning a commercial 45 possibly help confirm these details?

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Posted: 24 November 2007 at 6:52pm

jim...my commercial 45 issued as columbia 10516 states on the label a run time of 4:36 but it actually runs 4:22...it is NOT the same version as what is on the greatest hits cd.....the run out groove says..."zss - 162948 - 1b".....does anyone else have the commercial 45 with DIFFERENT run out groove notes....

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Posted: 02 December 2007 at 10:25pm

I just reviewed the 45 version vs. the Greatest Hits CD version, and the longer LP version cannot be edited to make the 45 version. Not only is the 45 edited, but it's a different mix.

The first and easiest way to tell the difference is that there's a different horse "whinney" sound effect on the intro of each one. Also, there's a second horse sound effect on the LP version intro, whereas the 45 version is missing this second sound effect. There are other mix differences throughout the song, too.

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Posted: 03 December 2007 at 12:59am

Is the promo 45 an edit of the stock 45? Would one presume the promo and stock 45 are the same mix?

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Posted: 03 December 2007 at 2:01am

I would presume, yes; however, I haven't yet heard the promo 45 version to compare. I'll let you know when I have more details.

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Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:39am

Unfortunately, I can't do a timing at this point, (stylus broke this a.m.), but a promo I ordered arrived this morning with a listed time of 4:36 on both sides. Was hoping it would have been the same as Jim's 3:37 promo. Matrix number is: ZSS 162948.

Obviously, there were 2 different promos issued for this song.

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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 2:58pm

Santa works fast! New stylus arrived this morning, so I was able to dub the promo I got. Definitely different than the Greatest Hits version I have. Label says from the LP Rocks. Listed is 4:36, actual is 4:22. My guess...this is the same as the stock version. If anyone is able to come up with edit points to make this 4:22 promo version 3:37, let us know...

BTW, The version currently available digitally from Rocks is the same as the Greatest Hits version.

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Posted: 24 December 2007 at 3:13pm

After gift exchanging, came home to once again dub the promo 45. It is V-E-R-Y narrow stereo. Not sure if the stock 45 is as narrow as this one is.

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Posted: 25 December 2007 at 10:13am

After getting a unexpected and nice opportunity to hear the 3:37 short promo version, it ALSO is very narrow stereo.

To get the 4:22 version down to 3:37:

Keep 0:00.00-3:10.741
Cut 3:10.741-3:26.000
Keep 3:26.000-3:41.286
Cut 3:41.286-4:11.785
Keep 4:11.785-4:22.000 or so.

The resulting edit will run 3:37.

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: aerosmith "back in the saddle" Posted: 24 April 2006 at 6:16pm
	i little off the database for a moment does anyone know which cd, if any, contains the 45 version of "back in the saddle" by aerosmith.......the greatest hits cd has a version which is slightly different than the 45 version.......the first vocals on the 45 is at the 0:14 mark while the first vocals on the greatest hits cd is 0:38.......the 45 states the run time as 4:36 and i see there are a few other cd's which contain the song.........i'm hoping there is a aerosmith freak, like i'm a top 40 freak, that maybe could shed some light on this one........thx....edtop40 Edited by edtop40
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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 November 2007 at 3:59pm
	Ed, although not in the database, this song did peak at #38 Billboard in 5/77. I currently only own a promo 45 for this song. Both the mono and stereo sides for it have both a listed & actual time of (3:37). My new Whitburn Pop Annual states a running time of (4:36), however. Could someone owning a commercial 45 possibly help confirm these details?

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 November 2007 at 6:52pm
	jim...my commercial 45 issued as columbia 10516 states on the label a run time of 4:36 but it actually runs 4:22...it is NOT the same version as what is on the greatest hits cd.....the run out groove says..."zss - 162948 - 1b".....does anyone else have the commercial 45 with DIFFERENT run out groove notes....
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 178	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 December 2007 at 10:25pm
	I just reviewed the 45 version vs. the Greatest Hits CD version, and the longer LP version cannot be edited to make the 45 version. Not only is the 45 edited, but it's a different mix. The first and easiest way to tell the difference is that there's a different horse "whinney" sound effect on the intro of each one. Also, there's a second horse sound effect on the LP version intro, whereas the 45 version is missing this second sound effect. There are other mix differences throughout the song, too.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 December 2007 at 12:59am
	Is the promo 45 an edit of the stock 45? Would one presume the promo and stock 45 are the same mix?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 178	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 December 2007 at 2:01am
	I would presume, yes; however, I haven't yet heard the promo 45 version to compare. I'll let you know when I have more details.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:39am
	Unfortunately, I can't do a timing at this point, (stylus broke this a.m.), but a promo I ordered arrived this morning with a listed time of 4:36 on both sides. Was hoping it would have been the same as Jim's 3:37 promo. Matrix number is: ZSS 162948. Obviously, there were 2 different promos issued for this song.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 December 2007 at 2:58pm
	Santa works fast! New stylus arrived this morning, so I was able to dub the promo I got. Definitely different than the Greatest Hits version I have. Label says from the LP Rocks. Listed is 4:36, actual is 4:22. My guess...this is the same as the stock version. If anyone is able to come up with edit points to make this 4:22 promo version 3:37, let us know... BTW, The version currently available digitally from Rocks is the same as the Greatest Hits version. Edited by eriejwg

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 December 2007 at 3:13pm
	After gift exchanging, came home to once again dub the promo 45. It is V-E-R-Y narrow stereo. Not sure if the stock 45 is as narrow as this one is. Edited by eriejwg

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 72	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 December 2007 at 10:13am
	After getting a unexpected and nice opportunity to hear the 3:37 short promo version, it ALSO is very narrow stereo. To get the 4:22 version down to 3:37: Keep 0:00.00-3:10.741 Cut 3:10.741-3:26.000 Keep 3:26.000-3:41.286 Cut 3:41.286-4:11.785 Keep 4:11.785-4:22.000 or so. The resulting edit will run 3:37.