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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul Haney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 2010 at 5:44am
Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

Bronson took over the Chart Beat column from Paul Grein in January, 1993 and has been authoring it ever since.


Actually, Fred Bronson's final Chart Beat column was in March of 2009. It's now authored by Billboard's Gary Trust.

BTW, Paul Grein has a great weekly chart blog on Yahoo Music.

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Originally posted by Yah Shure Yah Shure wrote:

...the commercial 45 having been released even later than the cassingle...


Oops. I must have been thinking of the 78. ;)

Thanks all for providing the correct timeline.
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As my buddy Paul Haney knows, for many years I have been a big purchaser/supporter of Record Research/Mr. Whitburn's publications, and I know he is sometimes hamstrung by the changing Billboard policies of the 90's. I was at the same Top 40 station for 30 years, and I compiled our year-end countdowns for 28 of those years. "I'll Be There For You" was by far our #1 song of the year in 1995. And never was the "points margin" between it and the #2 song of the year so wide. It was without question one of the 3 biggest hits in my entire 30 years. And while I realize we were just one station, this song was absolutely massive everywhere on the Top 40 side. I've always felt that no other song's true popularity has been more misrepresented in the reference books in the entire rock era than this one has been. I blame it almost 100% on the later association to "This House Is Not A Home". We never even played that song on our station, and it really has nothing at all to do with the previous smash, aside from the fact that the two were "coupled" on a Billboard-approved single format, VERY late in the "I'll Be There For You" hit run, by which point any trickle of residual singles sales would reflect nothing at all meaningful. This one, highly questionable policy at the time has to me completely overruled both the facts, and just plain common sense, ever since. In my respectful opinion, RR needs to totally re-examine/re-assess how it has currently interpreted this song's popularity, because it is grossly misrepresented as currently shown (as I step off my soapbox.) FYI, here are my promo CD single details for both:

The Rembrandts-"I'll Be There For You" (PRCD 9202-2)
1-(non-described version) (listed: none; actual 3:06)


The Rembrandts-"This House Is Not A Home" (PRCD 9279-2)
1-(LP Version) (listed 3:17; actual 3:16)
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jim: I agree... at the very least, RR should include a title note indicating that IBTFY spent 8 weeks atop the Hot 100 Airplay chart prior to its single release (since separate Sales/Airplay data was ditched after the 10th edition of Top Pop Singles).

Paul C: I could be mistaken, but I recall that AC airplay was added to the Hot 100 mix on 7/17/93, and Modern Rock was added a year or so after that (this was mentioned at the time in Billboard's weekly Hot 100 Singles Spotlight column). As you mentioned, the remaining formats weren't added until the chart's massive overhaul in November 1998.
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Originally posted by mstgator mstgator wrote:



Paul C: I could be mistaken, but I recall that AC airplay was added to the Hot 100 mix on 7/17/93, and Modern Rock was added a year or so after that (this was mentioned at the time in Billboard's weekly Hot 100 Singles Spotlight column). As you mentioned, the remaining formats weren't added until the chart's massive overhaul in November 1998.


You are correct, sir!
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