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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jimct Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 November 2010 at 1:23am
Jody, I'm thinking you can answer your own question here, since you're familiar with the remix, own that TM version, and you must already have the common, #1 hit original LP/45v somewhere. If the TM version sounds like the #1 hit's mix, then the TM custom version was created from it. However, if the TM version has the harder percussion/different vocal take, and runs (3:34), then TM used the 12" Jellybean edit for its source. Unless I'm missing something, of course!   :)
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Jim, I think he may be wondering if TM edited the 12" down at the same points Columbia did... is that right, Jody?
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Originally posted by NightAire NightAire wrote:

Jim, I think he may be wondering if TM edited the 12" down at the same points Columbia did... is that right, Jody?



Bingo!

Yes I know the mix differences, but I was curious if the edits I made were the same as the "Jellybean" edit.

Remember, until yesterday, I was never sure there was ACTUALLY a record that sounded like that. I thought all of these years that it was a custom edit.
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Now I gotcha! Tell you what - as many of you know, I am pretty ear-dead at distinguishing minute audio details; my "strength" has always been pretty much just owning the stuff. Typically, I've enlisted the kind heart/audio skill of my good buddy AaronK in cases like this. He will soon have the audio from my promo 12" available to him, and I know would be more than happy to compare it against your TM audio, Jody, and give you an answer - just give he and I some time to set things up for the analysis of this particular song.

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Originally posted by jimct jimct wrote:

Now I gotcha! Tell you what - as many of you know, I am pretty ear-dead at distinguishing minute audio details; my "strength" has always been pretty much just owning the stuff. Typically, I've enlisted the kind heart/audio skill of my good buddy AaronK in cases like this. He will soon have the audio from my promo 12" available to him, and I know would be more than happy to compare it against your TM audio, Jody, and give you an answer - just give he and I some time to set things up for the analysis of this particular song.


Thanks a million. You guys are really helpful as always.
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Your edit is ALMOST note-for-note identical to the B-side of the promo 12" remix.

The two differences are: in the beginning where you let the keyboard play for a few bars without the guitar duplicating the keyboard, while the "official" edit jumps to the guitar / keyboard section immediately (you both use the same number of bars & quickly join up). Then, the same thing happens about 2:17.

FYI: I have just discovered the 3:35 Jellybean edit CANNOT be recreated from the 6:00 remix for two reasons:

1st, during the "breakdown" starting at 2:17 & lasting until 2:40, there is significantly greater reverb on the hand claps at 2:21, 2:24, 2:28, 2:32, 2:36, & 2:40 in the edit.

2nd, at the end of that breakdown at 2:40, there are extra beats as a "drum fill" to get back into the chorus in the edit. In other words, instead of one "TAH," you have "TAH-TAH-TAH" right before she sings, "...cuz every time he pulls me near..."

Also, the version I suspected above might be from a German CD might be from YOU, Jody... it is, byte-for-byte, identical to the edit you just provided me. Makes me think I didn't label it properly the first time you sent it to me. *BLUSH*
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I have a version on a TM Century GoldDisc that when compared to my Billboard '84 & Sounds Of The Eighties CDs has less compression overall. It could be the same mix just quieter?? It's 4:11 but seems like an early fade.

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MainRhythm, I have no answer on that one! It's certainly possible that they might have faded the album version to more closely match the fade point on the B-side "remix / edit" on the 12" and cut out the instrumental vamp at the end, in the process. Interesting, if that's the case.

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I thought y'all might be interested in the response I got from the Program Director & the Music Director of the top 40 station I grew up listening to:

Quote Sorry, Gene, I have no recollection about this whatsoever. Since she wasn't what anyone would consider to be a "groundbreaking" artist, I thank we probably just dubbed to cart whatever was on the single that was serviced to radio.


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Quote Wow... you're weird :-)

Pretty sure we played the 4:20 version... not 100% on it but pretty darn sure. We might have faded it early on the cart but that's just a wild guess. 4:20 seems right to me. I'm also thinking, for the most part, other than Friday or Saturday night we probably would not have played the Re-Mix.

Where do you come up with this stuff?


So, I've managed to alienate two more radio friends in The Quest For The Radio Edit. :-D LOL!

...and, of course, pointed them to this site, blaming my anal obsession with The Hit Version on you guys. ;-)

THANK YOU, as always, for your help on this and so many other hard-to-find or hard-to-determine radio versions.
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