Jimmie Rodgers-"Child Of Clay"

Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic

   My commercial 45, confirmed as A&M 871, has a listed time of (3:58), but an actual time of (4:11). Current database CD timngs for this song (all stereo) range from (4:06) to (4:08). My 45 is styrene, with deadwax of "A+M 1334-1". Does anyone happen to own a promo 45 for this one? I wonder if there was possibly a shorter version sent radio's way, to increase their late 1967 chances for airplay...

Edited by jimct

Author	Message Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic Printable Version Translate Topic
jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Jimmie Rodgers-"Child Of Clay" Posted: 17 April 2010 at 1:24pm
	My commercial 45, confirmed as A&M 871, has a listed time of (3:58), but an actual time of (4:11). Current database CD timngs for this song (all stereo) range from (4:06) to (4:08). My 45 is styrene, with deadwax of "A+M 1334-1". Does anyone happen to own a promo 45 for this one? I wonder if there was possibly a shorter version sent radio's way, to increase their late 1967 chances for airplay... Edited by jimct

Yah Shure Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yah Shure Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 April 2010 at 5:59pm
	Jim, I don't have a promo copy, but my stock copy, which also has a listed time of (3:58) runs an actual (4:09). It's a west coast Monarch pressing, with matrix number "A+M 1334 RE-2-16" and delta number 67908. Might there be a mix difference here?

TomDiehl1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomDiehl1 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 April 2010 at 10:29pm
	I thought I had a promo copy however mine is only a stock issue (styrene - it is mono, also). Deadwax reads (handwritten) A&M 1334-2, there are also separately machine stamped J (just to the left of the handwriting) and a machine stamped 3 opposite the handwriting. It has an actual time of (4:11) but the fadeout is long and between 4:07 and 4:11 is all but overpowered by the groove noise on my 45. Edited by TomDiehl1
	Live in stereo.

Hykker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hykker Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 April 2010 at 5:56am
	I have both a promo & stock copy of this song and other than the promo copy being in stereo do not notice a difference between the two. I'll verify this when I get a chance. I got the promo copy during the song's chart run, and only had a mono turntable at the time...I recall hearing a slight pre-echo when playing it. This pre-echo is not there when folding down a stereo cartridge.

TomDiehl1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomDiehl1 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 September 2010 at 12:36am
	I found a promotional copy of this single in a record store on Saturday so I picked it up (the price was right -- $2). Both sides have a listed time of (3:58) and have an actual run time of (4:11). As with my stock copy, the last few seconds are very quiet on the fade out (but this is a much quieter pressing than my stock copy). On the first side, the matrix numbers read: A&M-1334-15 followed by the monarch symbol and delta 67908. The second side has a matrix of: A&M-1334-16 followed by the monarch symbol and delta 67908.
	Live in stereo.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 2013 at 5:04pm
	my commercial 45 issued as a&m 871 states the run time as 3:58 but actually runs 4:08 and is identical, except for he mono/stereo difference, to the 'best of' cd version....my run out groove etching is 'A+M 1334-1'....no delta symbol at all.....
	edtop40