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   Pat, all listings of "Please Please Me" by the Beatles should have the note: "Contains additional reverb not found on the 45."

There are whole threads about this matter on the Steve Hoffman site.  Both the original UK Parlophone and US Vee-Jay singles of "Please Please Me" were bone dry, no reverb at all.  When their first album was released, echo was added to the song for the album.  Even on the CD singles and EP boxes, the incorrect tape was used for both the "A" and "B" side of that single.  Steve Hoffman said he got so angry that the singles box used the wrong tape for that song he threw it out the window.

The original no-reverb single version has never been issued on CD.

Edited by Brian W.

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Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:41am
	Pat, all listings of "Please Please Me" by the Beatles should have the note: "Contains additional reverb not found on the 45." There are whole threads about this matter on the Steve Hoffman site. Both the original UK Parlophone and US Vee-Jay singles of "Please Please Me" were bone dry, no reverb at all. When their first album was released, echo was added to the song for the album. Even on the CD singles and EP boxes, the incorrect tape was used for both the "A" and "B" side of that single. Steve Hoffman said he got so angry that the singles box used the wrong tape for that song he threw it out the window. The original no-reverb single version has never been issued on CD. Edited by Brian W.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 05 March 2006 at 12:48am
	You also might want to make a note that all stereo versions of "Help" use a different take of the vocal in some parts of the song.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 April 2006 at 10:17pm
	Pat, I just noticed the update to Mariah Carey's "Someday," how the cassette single used the LP version. Yes and no. I personally owned (though I don't think I do any longer) two separate cassette singles of the song (one was purchased as part of a lot on Ebay). One had the LP Version, and the other used the 7" New Jackswing mix. Both were two-track cassettes with the same B-side and the EXACT same catalog number on the sleeve. I can't recall of the cassette shell itself indicated which version it was. But both were definitely US pressings. I believe (though I'm not positive) that all 45s used the LP Version. You should update the comment that some cassettes were mastered with the LP Version while others used the 7" New Jackswing Mix.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 April 2006 at 11:23am
	Pat, "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head" on "A Year in Your Life 1970 Vol 2" is not mono as listed in the database. It sounds mono until the orchestra comes in, then it's wide stereo. You might check to see if this is the same case on the "Straight from the Heart" CD.

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2006 at 7:03pm
	Chuck Miller's recent post about "Straight Up" got me wondering... So I did an Ebay search for Mariah's "Someday" on vinyl, and lo and behold: three different copies, all US pressings, that use the 7" Jackswing mix instead of the LP version, and all of them with "Alone in Love" as the B-side. (I suppose these could be like some cassette single pressings and claim the remix when they're really the LP version.) http://cgi.ebay.com/MARIAH-CAREY-SOMEDAY-NEW-7-JACKSWING-45_ W0QQitemZ4865178072QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem#ebayphotohosting http://cgi.ebay.com/MARIAH-CAREY-Someday-USA-7-vinyl_W0QQite mZ4872633986QQcategoryZ58673QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem#ebayphotohosting http://cgi.ebay.com/MARIAH-CAREY-SOMEDAY-New-7-Jackswing-Alo ne-in-Love-45_W0QQitemZ4769642420QQcategoryZ306QQssPageNameZ WD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

elcoleccionista Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 November 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote elcoleccionista Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 May 2006 at 7:42pm
	I have the "Someday" US promo and commercial CD singles. If it's any help: The promo CD's lead track is the album version, followed by the 7" Jackswing. But on the commercial CD single, the 7" Jackswing is the first track, and the album version is not included.

cmmmbase Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote cmmmbase Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 May 2006 at 11:56am
	I have 2 different stock 45s of Mariah Carey's "Someday" One with the regular lp version, and one with the New Jack Swing Version. Both have the same B-side and same catalog number.

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 May 2011 at 11:56pm
	I have taken a listen to Richie Havens - Here Comes The Sun from Super Hits Vol. 5, Live At The Cellar Door and Then: Totally Oldies 70's, Vol. 6. The stereo mixes are missing the organ or chimes-like overdub that begins approx. when he sings the line "It seems Like Years Since It's Been Clear" lasting for approx. 30 seconds. The database needs updating for Then: Totally Oldies 70's, Vol. 6. Edited by davidclark
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Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 2011 at 7:58am
	David, the cd "The: Totally Oldies" is missing several overdubs and rather than detailing all of them, that fact is covered with the current comment of "remixed".

Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 August 2013 at 10:50pm
	The song Here I Am (Come and Take Me) is mistakenly listed as mono on the Right Stuff CD "Take Me to the River." It's narrower stereo than some of the other issues, but a quick listen with headphones will reveal that it is indeed true stereo.