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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7 |
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my commercial 45 for the shirelles song 'will you love me
tomorrow' issued as scepter 1211 lists the run time on the label as 2:48 but actually runs 2:39...this 45 run time info s/b added to the db... |
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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I have this track in several places, only one in mono (on The Scepter Records
Story), and two in stereo: on "Billboard Top Rock'N'Roll Hits 1961" where it is drenched in echo, that I do not hear on the mono version, nor on the version on "Rock & Roll: The First 50 Years – The Early '60s: 25 Top 10 Hits". The database indicates "with no echo added" for the latter, but no comments beside the mono versions. So, safely assuming the mono version on the CD that I have is the correct 45 version (with no echo added), then all CDs with echo added are....what? The stereo LP version? Or was the stereo LP version the one database entry with no echo, making me wonder when the echo version first appeared? |
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 29 |
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well, a little digging from what I thought I'd remember reading a while ago
(10 years!), I located the info regarding this track. http://bsnpubs.websitetoolbox.com/post/varese-presents-25-hi tsearly- 60s-126323?highlight=shirelles+you+love+me&pid=156779 It is clearly stated, by those in the know, that the heavy reverb/echo was not on the original Scepter LP. So that echo version came later, and has found its way on to SO many CDs. So, database for all those not-labeled versions should be updated (and the sole correct version updated to reflect it being the proper mix). |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 93 |
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I understand that the stereo LP mix from 1961 did not have prevalent reverb throughout. (I assume the 1961 45 was mono.) I found two CDs with the reverb-free stereo version, both having a fade that starts at 2:24 and ends at 2:33:
The reverb-laden stereo version first turned up on Rhino's Billboard Top R&R Hits 1961 (1988), where it sounds just fine. Great dynamic range, nice EQ, No noise reduction, pleasing hiss on the fade. All of the following use the same analog transfer as Billboard:
All of the above sound basically the same as the Billboard disc, with a reasonable EQ, reasonable volume levels (no clipping), great dynamic range, pleasing hiss on the fade, and no traces of noise reduction. I would assume that most, if not all, of the typical big-label compilations out there would also use the reverb-laden version that originally appeared on the Billboard CD. Verese's Totally Oldies Vol. 3 Then (2002) is a teensy bit more compressed than all of the above, and a teeny-bit more smiley-face EQ'd than the above. Still sounds fine, but the others are a tiny bit better. My recommendations, based on my limited library: For what appears to be the proper 1961 stereo LP mix (no reverb): Warner Special Products/Heartland's 2-CD Slow Dancing (1991) For the reverb-laden mix that likely didn't exist in 1961 and likely originated with the Billboard CD: Rhino's Billboard Top R&R Hits 1961 (1988) Edited by crapfromthepast |
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