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Originally posted by Brian W. Brian W. wrote:

Originally posted by AndrewChouffi AndrewChouffi wrote:

To Brian:

What's "incorrect" about the horn overdubs on, say, 'Elvis Golden Records Vol. 5'?

Andy

Sorry, I didn't quite have my info correct on that one. The situation is: the horn overdubs on the stereo version are a different take than the overdubs on the mono mix, because they were both done live, for the reason listed above. It seems like I've read that some CDs in recent years remixed the song and dubbed in the horns from the mono mix.


Didn't they do something screwy on that "30 #1 Hits" release a few years ago, like mix in the horns from the mono version resulting in phase issues? I can't remember if that was just the surround mix on the DVD-A version or if the regular CD version had the same problem. In any event, there were other problems with that release (such as not even using the correct take of one song) so I put it in storage and haven't listened to it in years.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2011 at 4:14pm
I finally had a chance to compare the "Elvis In Memphis" mono version with the "Essential" stereo version. Although the mono version is a unique mix, it's very similar to a fold down of the stereo version. Additionally, the horns are identical in both recordings. I synched both copies, and they are not a different take.

So, unless the mono mix on the 45 differs from the "Elvis In Memphis" CD, the stereo version (not the one "missing horn overdubs") is the same version. All instruments are present and are about the same level in both mixes. The only notable difference was right before the song slows down at 1:40, there is a horn that comes in full volume on the stereo, where it fades up on the mono. Other than that, I couldn't detect anything different.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MMathews Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2011 at 9:17pm
Thanks for confirming that , Aaron.
I really had my doubts about some of those stories... the
stereo mix (the PROPER stereo mix) that i have on "Gold
Records Vol. 5" and also the Nipper's 60's CD...
always sounded exactly the same as the mono to me except
stereo. I mean, i had heard the mono hundreds of times,
since i had it on 3 albums and the 45 before i bought
"Gold Records Vol 5".

I don't know what really happened, that many years ago
they were able to make a normal stereo mix, but in recent
years they cannot.
That Top 10 hits mix from the 80's, missing the horns
(you could hear the bleed of them way in the background.)
and that recent mix from "30#1's" .. i do NOT care for at
ALL. I won't use adjectives out of respect, as i've
learned you never know who's reading these boards, and
i've put my foot in it more than once.
But let's just say, i'd have synched the horns in a
different fashion that could have avoided an echoed drum
beat.
And, given Aaron's findings above, in hindsight, would
have been much easier to simply re-master the original
stereo mix, than spend hours to create a new strange one.

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My question has been answered.

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