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    Posted: 30 December 2011 at 7:59pm
my commercial 45 for the stevie wonder song "boogie on
raggae woman" issued as tamla 54254 states the run time
on
the label as 4:05 but actually runs 4:07.....the version
that is on the USA issued cd of "the definitive
collection" is
NOT the 45 version....it is the same up until the 3:06    
mark of the song and then the song is different.....on a
positive note...the version that is on the cd "song
review-
a greatest hits collection" IS the correct 45
version.....provided you clip the intro which has the
preceding song on the intro......pat, please confirm this
for me.....

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You can find the correct 45 version in the clear on the cd "Motown: The Complete No. 1's" box set.

Yes it is also on "Song Review" but you cannot avoid the tracking of the previous selection into the introduction of Boogie On Reggae Woman.

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The Definitive Collection also missed the edit on the intro of the 45. It makes me wonder how much other guesswork was used in re-creating 45 versions for that compilation. Has anyone double-checked the rest of the tracks for accuracy? So far, we've discovered this one and "Do I Do."

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LP version (printed 4:55, actual 4:58-ish?)

On the Fulfillingness' First Finale, the intro includes some of the previous track "Too Shy To Say". The actual intro of the song fades in, so that on the first downbeat of "Boogie", the previous song is completely faded out.

45 version (printed 4:05, actual 4:09)

The true 45 appears on Motown's Stevie Wonder collection Song Review (1996). In terms of sound quality, Song Review sounds just like the 45. The high end is pretty muted.

The 45 includes about 2-1/2 beats of the 16th note pulses on the intro, so that the first downbeat (bass drum) falls on pulse number 10.

The intro of the 45 isn't found on the LP, because the LP intro fades in and includes some of the previous track.

The 45 includes two edits, removing 32 beats of the LP version at 3:04.8 and another 16 beats at 3:15.1 (timings correspond to timings in the 45 from Song Review), and fading early. The fade starts around 3:48 on the 45, after the three-snare-hit drum fill, and ends around 4:09.

Full performance unedited

Sorry, doesn't seem to exist anywhere, but you should be able to piece it together based on the info below.

The disc that seems to extend the farthest at the end of the song seems to be Motown's 4-CD Stevie Wonder box At The Close Of A Century (1999). It runs about 18 seconds longer (at the end) than Fulfillingness' First Finale. The box set starts pretty close to the first downbeat, so that you hear about one 16th note pulse before the downbeat. If you're going to recreate the full performance, you'll need to replace the intro.

The Stevie Wonder collection Original Musiquarium 1 Vol. 2 (1982) has a longer intro than anything that had been previously released. The first downbeat (bass drum falls) on pulse number 19. The rest of the track is the LP version, including the same fade points as Fulfillingness' First Finale. Because the tracks on Fulfillingness' First Finale are cross-faded, and are therefore necessarily a tape generation removed from the original two-track mixdown, I'd guess that Original Musiquarium 1 Vol. 2 uses a lower-generation tape source than most others because it doesn't include the crossfaded intro. Definitive Collection (2002) seems to be based on Original Musiquarium 1 Vol. 2 but fades early.

There's a version on The Complete Stevie Wonder Disc 41 that is pretty close to the full performance. The EQ is odd, though, with a very muted high end. The tail of the fade is about 3 seconds shorter than At The Close Of A Century. But the intro is far longer than anything previously released. The opening downbeat falls on 16th note pulse number 62, at the 9-second mark.

If you want to recreate the full performance, I'd recommend EQ-ing the intro of The Complete Stevie Wonder Disc 41 to boost the high end, and grafting the intro onto At The Close Of A Century.
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