Verifying true 45 edits for non-Top-40 classic roc

Subject: Verifying true 45 edits for non-Top-40 classic rock singles (deep cuts)

Hi everyone —

I’m hoping to tap into the forum’s collective knowledge as I start digging deeper into non-Top-40 singles by classic rock artists.

I’ve relied heavily on Top40MusicOnCD for years to identify true single versions, but as expected, once you move outside Billboard Top 40 territory, documentation gets thin very quickly.

At this stage, I’m trying to build a verified list first, before I begin tracking down audio or recreating edits.

What I’m specifically trying to confirm

For each song, I’m looking to determine:

1. Was the commercial stock 45 a true edit (not just an early fade)?

2. If edited, where the edits occur (verse removal, instrumental cut, alternate structure, etc.)

3. Whether the 45 used a unique mix or elements not found on the LP (alternate vocals, different balance, remix, mono-only, etc.)

My current workflow

• I don’t rely on label run times — I’ve found them to be wildly inaccurate.

• I compare structure against the LP (verse counts, instrumental lengths, fade timing).

• If a correct 45 version isn’t documented or available digitally, my last resort has been purchasing the actual 45 and recreating it myself.

• About 90% of edits are straightforward, but I’m especially cautious about the small percentage that may involve unique mixes or alternate sources.

Initial songs I’ve already flagged

These appear to be true edited singles, not simple fades:

• Fountain of Sorrow – Jackson Browne
  LP ~6:30 vs 45 ~4:37 (appears to include mid-song structural edits + earlier fade)

• Turn to Stone – Joe Walsh
  LP ~4:58 vs 45 ~3:30 (verse removal + instrumental tightening)

• Revival – The Allman Brothers Band
  LP ~4:02 vs 45 ~2:39 (heavily truncated for AM radio)

If anyone can confirm edit points, mix differences, or known documentation for these — or point me to existing forum threads I may have missed — it would be hugely appreciated.

Once I’ve built out a longer list, I’ll follow up with additional titles rather than flooding the forum all at once.

Thanks in advance — and thanks for keeping this level of detail alive.

— Don

You can reach out to me via PM if you need assistance verifying times or edits. Currently working on assembling the entire Hot 100 from 1958 through present and others as well on the board have tracked down numerous 45's to make the proper edits from LP versions.

I wish you success with your endeavor.

"Bloody Well Right" is mostly a straight edit but also involves looping a chorus at the end. Here's how to trim down the LP version:

- remove 0:00 to 0:51 of the LP version
(song opens with the snare hit)
- keep 0:51 to 1:08 of the LP version (edit on the snare hit)
- remove 2:40 to 2:43 of the LP version (edit on downbeat)
- keep 2:43 to 3:37 of the LP version
- remove 3:37 to end of the LP version (edit should be on the kick drum before the snare downbeat)
- copy 3:25 (starting with kick drum just before the snare) to 3:37 and paste it at the end four times in a row
- slow down your file by 0.5% (the promo runs slightly slower than the LP version)
- fade out from 2:48 to 3:00 and remove everything beyond 3:00

The promo has a touch of compression added to it, but it's the same mix as the LP version.

Edited by aaronk - 3 hours 25 minutes ago at 10:36pm