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Grant ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Th4e muffled sound is what I remember radio played back in the day.
There are quite a few 45s out there that have this type of sound. It's just that in the CD age, producers and engineers got into the bad habit of brightening everything up. Me? I'll take a sound closer to what is on the tape, for better or for worse. If I want a fixed-up sound, I can do it myself. I recently redid my 1974 comp and wanted to add "Midnight At The Oasis" by Maria Muldaur. I could have easily used the Rhino version, but it was too bright/compressed. Sounds good, but it's not what I heard on the radio back then. So, I dug out my Warner's "Singers And Songwriters" CD that came out in 1985 and used the mastering on that one. It was transfered flat and sounded totally uncompressed. But, it also sounded a bit dull. So, just to get it into the ballpark of the other songs, I used a compressor just a wee tad. So, I got the best of both, the clean sound I heard on radio in 1974, but not bright. Hey, I know you all don't care about my mastering mumbo-jumbo, but it's early!:) |
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Tim Lyman ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The 45 also has a prominent tom tom which is completely absent from the LP version.
I just finished comparing my Buddah 45 to the Rhino CD, and they both have the same muddy sound quality. :( |
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Indy500 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 January 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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On the 2013 remaster CD of "Imagination" the following bonus tracks are listed:
Midnight Train To Georgia - Single Version Window Raisin Granny - Single Version Midnight Train To Georgia - Short Version - Previously Unreleased Midnight Train To Georgia - Instrumental - Previously Unreleased Was there a short promo of Midnight Train to Georgia in 1973? Edited by Indy500 |
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Willie:
The Funky Town Grooves CD that has those bonus tracks was recently released. I'm pretty sure someone on this board would have identified a short promo version of this chart topper prior. It is labeled Previously Unreleased on my copy of the CD for track 12 which is the short version that runs (3:17), so I would assume this is the first time it's ever seen the light of day so to speak. |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 165 |
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I was just able to hear a copy of the "Single Version" and "Short Version" from the remastered CD. I can, unfortunately, report that the "Single Version" does not match the actual US 45 version (assuming that the Can You Dig It box set is correct). The version on this new CD does not have the additional reverb and percussion.
The "Short Version" also does not match the mix of the US single version. Interestingly, the "Short" and "Single" versions on the CD don't appear to have come from the same tape. The "Short" version sounds like it comes from a higher generation tape and has different EQ. |
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Santi Paradoa ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 February 2009 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Good info Aaron. I was pleasantly surprised at how good that "short" version sounded in comparison to the incorrect "single" version on this new release on the Funky Town Grooves label.
BTW, the version included on this disc for the group's song "Where Peaceful Waters Flow" is the same incorrect version that has been on every CD release before. This is not the first time this reissue label has included an incorrect single version on one of their CDs (they used the incorrect edit of "Disco Nights (Rock Freak)" by GQ that has been on countless discs prior). Apparently, if the tape is labeled single version they never bother to check if it's actually correct or not. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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The song was originally recorded in 1972 by the guy who wrote it, Jim Weatherly, as "Midnight Plane To Houston". Wasn't a hit.
It was covered in 1972 by Cissy Houston (Whitney's mom), and retitled "Midnight Train To Georgia". Wasn't a hit. And then it got to Gladys Knight And The Pips. BIG hit, hitting #1 in 1973. The LP version sounds quite nice, and there are plenty of CDs that feature the LP with nice sound. Rhino's Billboard Top R&R Hits 1973 (1988) sounds great. The same analog transfer is used on:
All of the above sound quite nice. Now, the discs to avoid:
My recommendations: For the LP version, go with Rhino's Billboard Top R&R Hits 1973 (1988). For the 45 version, if you really insist on hearing it this way, go with Rhino's Have A Nice Decade. |
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I notice that there is no mention of the single version on
the Greatest Hits 1973-1985 Hit Single versions on the Varese Sarabande label. |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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Thanks to Tom O, I can report that the French import CD Knight Records (KNCD 12004) does not have the true 45 mix. Instead, it seems to be the LP mix with a little bit of reverb. Listen at 0:42 to the true 45, and you'll hear a distinct low tom-tom in the right channel. There's no such tom-tom in the LP mix, or in the version on this CD. I didn't check if the edit points are correct.
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There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 55 |
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Thanks to Grant, I can report that the Varese CD also does not have the true 45 mix. This, too, is the LP mix. I didn't check if the edit points are correct.
But boy, does it sound crisp on this disc! The hi-hat is right there. It may be a treble boost, or may be better source tapes. Either way, it's pretty eye-opening. |
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