Glee vs. Elvis - most Hot 100 singles

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   While I think reports of radio's demise are greatly exaggerated, it's certainly not the cultural centerpiece it once was...definitely not a hitmaker anymore.  Like print media, it just can't react quickly enough in this "always connected" age.

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Hykker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hykker Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2011 at 4:50pm
	While I think reports of radio's demise are greatly exaggerated, it's certainly not the cultural centerpiece it once was...definitely not a hitmaker anymore. Like print media, it just can't react quickly enough in this "always connected" age.

bwolfe Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 May 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote bwolfe Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2011 at 7:39pm
	Radio's demise are greatly exaggerated, but with consolidation we began to see the lack of competition. Since I'm in the business (smaller marker) its a follow the flock format. No one is taking the lead on anything. We deal with a consultant who has us check Mediabase to see how the spins are on gold titles. That makes radio the somewhat bland less than broad format that it once was. In fact my GM refers to us as a sales organization. Radio is here to make money first. There is so much debt from consolidation that its revenue first listeners second. The record business turned its head from the electronic side of things thinking that young people would buy CD's forever. Their heads were firmly planted in the sand. I remember opening the mail and seeing the new Madonna "Like A Prayer" and proclaming to listen at 3 for the local premiere of her new single. That's way over! I agree with Hykker radio isn't as connected as it was. Don't get me started on voice tracking and unmanned airshifts.
	the way it was heard on the radio

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 209	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 February 2011 at 2:03am
	Last week, I listened to an old AT40 show from 1980 where Casey Kasem said that the female artist with the most cover songs to chart was Linda Ronstadt and the male artist with the most cover songs to chart was Donny Osmond - they had 13 & 14, respectively (although Ronstadt would eventually have 14, too). Who would have guessed that years later that the record would be shattered and that there would be an act to have over 150 cover songs chart - the cast of 'Glee'?!!? If someone could have somehow said in 1980 that eventually there would be an act with 150 charted cover songs, I think everyone would have been dumbfounded. The charts are so different now, I think it's a shame that so many old chart feats/records have been beat due to the way the charts are now allowed to be compiled. There ought to be 2 sets of chart feats! :)

PopArchivist Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote PopArchivist Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 March 2020 at 3:08pm
	Update: What's even worse is that a lot of the Glee Cast songs in assembling the Hot 100 inside and outside the top 40 have disappeared never to be available again. At least Elvis and The Beatles songs are available to collect always. Most of the Glee releases were quick Itunes singles that often didnt make it to CD. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Both are fruits but that doesn't mean the accomplishments are the same. What took a lifetime for Elvis to accomplish with ORIGINAL music is quite different then what Glee did with covers and very few ORIGINAL music compositions....
	Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."

Hykker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hykker Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 March 2020 at 5:30am
	I just got my 1955-2018 Top Pop singles book a couple weeks ago, and, Glee aside an surprised at the disconnect between chart "success" and radio play. Lots of songs that seemed to be big radio hits were, at best mid- charters while tons of stuff (heavy on rap/R&B) I've never heard of were top 10. Granted, I live in a very small market in a very "white" state so radio here might not be reflective of what's happening in larger markets but still... I'm not sure how Billboard's chart methodology can be changed to "better reflect" what's happening these days though. As I mentioned upthread, tastes and listening habits are so fragmented these days that there really aren't many true "hit" songs anymore. I'm curious, what do board members here think should go into the Hot 100, or is such a chart an anachronism in today's world?

AutumnAarilyn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 22 August 2019 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote AutumnAarilyn Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 March 2020 at 10:33pm
	Half airplay by radio format and half physical and digital sales.

jebsib Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 06 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 16	Post Options Post Reply Quote jebsib Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 March 2020 at 1:18pm
	Given the current state of the music industry - which is vibrant - I think the Hot 100 is doing the best it can to reflect the diverse array of popular songs in the States. You can't deny the enormous influence of streaming and Hip-Hop that the culture - and anyone under the age of 25 - is exposed to on a daily basis. Unfortunately, this includes album bombs where dozens of new album tracks materialize on the chart only to recede and disappear a week later. But, radio is holding onto 'the hits' longer than ever before (8 - 15 MONTHS sometimes), so the true hits these days are culturally indelible. When I grew up, a hit song was played for 3 months, then rarely heard again till it was an oldie! There is NO going back to how the charts looked in the 70s and 80s.